Guys, most of us know that the founding fathers feared standing armies.
Relatively new to this forum, but something hit me and I would like your input.
After the revolution, each state had it's own stae militia and I guess it stayed that way up until the war between the states.
I sm sure things drastically changed after the civil war, especially in the southern states.
Prior to that it appears that we had a "swiss style" or "Israeli style" militia.
Of course the national guard was formed in 1903 and that is the so called militia our opponents talk about.
From what I have read in the past gun ownership was mandatory up unitl the beginning of the 20th century when it become voluntary.
The constitution allows for a Navy, but says an army can only be funded for 2years and that would make sense if we had a trained militia.
One could argue that by putting the declaration of Independence and the constitution together that the mindset of the founders was that they recognized the need for a national defense, but didn't want to create a homegrown tyranical government, so they made the whole population the army and gavie it a charge to protect the country from enemies foreign and domestic.
Fast forward to now.
Many of our opponents hate guns because guns do kill and they are in the mindset that if we ban guns we can save lives.
They see the government as the solution and they want everyone just to get along, they think with their hearts, sadly their heads are MIA.
Many of our opponents are also "peace activists". They yammer about the Military Industrial Complex, they cry about police abuse, they decry our foreign policy of intervention in other countries.
Many have roots back to the vietnam anti war movement.
Where am I going with this.
One could make an arguement that because we did not protect the natural right of not just American's. but people all around the world to maintain arms so that they could control their guvernments, millions of people have died.
We have Wars because nations have standing armies to fight them with and when evil people get into power, they use those armies.
The leaders of the peace movement will never go for what I propose because their goal is a one world government.
It is not the leaders we want, rather it is the pawns in the peace movement that we can siphon off to our side.
Who knows, we may be able to create an "alternative peace movement".
This could be a potential a way to fuel of "left of center" gun rights movement.
Ron Paul stated his platform of peace, prosperity and freedom that he would like to pull our trioops home, not meddle in other countries affairs, take the savings and reduce federal spending, first priority, eliminate the Income Tax.
Restoring the citizen based militia that the constitution calls for and scaling back our military will stregthen our country and our freedoms in many ways.
Anyone who is trully a "Peace Activists" and not a "Borg" should recognize that.
Now if we came up with a modern working model of what a citizen militia would look like, that would be even better.
Imagine if New Orleans had a standing citizen based militia established prior to Katrina. After Katrina hit, we woujld have had civll order reestablished and maintained quickly.
When the ground rocks here in California, the police will not be able to maintain order. Because the politicians have ignored their responsiblities under the 2nd amendment, the state is in for a major diaster anytime.
Businesses have a vested interest since they suffer the most after a natural disaster. Insurance companies also since they get to pay out.
Long post, but I hope you guys get the drift on the "responsiblity part of guns".
The esponsiblity to own guns is something which I believe may help shift the political balance more to our favor.
Relatively new to this forum, but something hit me and I would like your input.
After the revolution, each state had it's own stae militia and I guess it stayed that way up until the war between the states.
I sm sure things drastically changed after the civil war, especially in the southern states.
Prior to that it appears that we had a "swiss style" or "Israeli style" militia.
Of course the national guard was formed in 1903 and that is the so called militia our opponents talk about.
From what I have read in the past gun ownership was mandatory up unitl the beginning of the 20th century when it become voluntary.
The constitution allows for a Navy, but says an army can only be funded for 2years and that would make sense if we had a trained militia.
One could argue that by putting the declaration of Independence and the constitution together that the mindset of the founders was that they recognized the need for a national defense, but didn't want to create a homegrown tyranical government, so they made the whole population the army and gavie it a charge to protect the country from enemies foreign and domestic.
Fast forward to now.
Many of our opponents hate guns because guns do kill and they are in the mindset that if we ban guns we can save lives.
They see the government as the solution and they want everyone just to get along, they think with their hearts, sadly their heads are MIA.
Many of our opponents are also "peace activists". They yammer about the Military Industrial Complex, they cry about police abuse, they decry our foreign policy of intervention in other countries.
Many have roots back to the vietnam anti war movement.
Where am I going with this.
One could make an arguement that because we did not protect the natural right of not just American's. but people all around the world to maintain arms so that they could control their guvernments, millions of people have died.
We have Wars because nations have standing armies to fight them with and when evil people get into power, they use those armies.
The leaders of the peace movement will never go for what I propose because their goal is a one world government.
It is not the leaders we want, rather it is the pawns in the peace movement that we can siphon off to our side.
Who knows, we may be able to create an "alternative peace movement".
This could be a potential a way to fuel of "left of center" gun rights movement.
Ron Paul stated his platform of peace, prosperity and freedom that he would like to pull our trioops home, not meddle in other countries affairs, take the savings and reduce federal spending, first priority, eliminate the Income Tax.
Restoring the citizen based militia that the constitution calls for and scaling back our military will stregthen our country and our freedoms in many ways.
Anyone who is trully a "Peace Activists" and not a "Borg" should recognize that.
Now if we came up with a modern working model of what a citizen militia would look like, that would be even better.
Imagine if New Orleans had a standing citizen based militia established prior to Katrina. After Katrina hit, we woujld have had civll order reestablished and maintained quickly.
When the ground rocks here in California, the police will not be able to maintain order. Because the politicians have ignored their responsiblities under the 2nd amendment, the state is in for a major diaster anytime.
Businesses have a vested interest since they suffer the most after a natural disaster. Insurance companies also since they get to pay out.
Long post, but I hope you guys get the drift on the "responsiblity part of guns".
The esponsiblity to own guns is something which I believe may help shift the political balance more to our favor.
