In theory, they could double the rate of fire. But there's a safety issue. Once you pull the trigger and fire the first shot, you are committed to firing the second shot (when you release the trigger). I don't see any way you could abort the second shot. And, a shooter unfamiliar with that particular gun's setup would have no way of knowing this. Installing a binary trigger could thus expose you to legal liability if something goes wrong.
Note: I had a reweld M1 Garand that would sometimes double unexpectedly. This was scary, to say the least.
It shouldn't take legislation for shooters to avoid things like binary triggers. They should do so out of a sense of self-preservation.
They should serialize hammers and knives.
But how many shooters would have the presence of mind or the knowledge to do this? One big problem that I see with binary triggers is the guns changing hands on the secondary market, and the new owners not being aware exactly how this would work.This problem was addressed; apparently, if you pull the trigger on a binary-trigger AR-15 and decide not to fire the second shot, you simply flip the safety to "on."
But how many shooters would have the presence of mind or the knowledge to do this?
But how many shooters would have the presence of mind or the knowledge to do this? One big problem that I see with binary triggers is the guns changing hands on the secondary market, and the new owners not being aware exactly how this would work.
All this leads in one direction, for those who are logically inclined: repeal the Hughes Amendment, make proper machine guns affordable again, and watch all these secondary problems go away. But the issue of guns is so polarized that there is no room for logic any more.
I was wondering about this myself, there are older guns out there with no serial numbers, so are those banned now too? The legal wording is that the frame has to be made from plastic or from a metal 3D printer for it to not be legal, so I'm going to guess that guns that lack a serial number, but were made in a factory decades ago are still okay.So what happens if you own an older .22 or cheap shotgun produced sans serial number?
Well, if that is the language of the enacted code, it just means home-builders have to find an 07FFL to apply the serial.does is compel home gamers to put a serial number on a completed 80% receiver.
Edit to add: 230RN did not "say" this, but is quoted for purposes of discussion "said" appears via a Prospero forum template.or markings in accordance with 27 C.F.R. § 479.102.
[source: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/479.102]§ 479.102 How must firearms be identified?
(a) You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows:
(1) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver thereof an individual serial number. The serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch; and
(2) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch. The additional information includes:
(i) The model, if such designation has been made;
(ii) The caliber or gauge;
(iii) Your name (or recognized abbreviation) and also, when applicable, the name of the foreign manufacturer or maker;
(iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; and
(v) In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in which it was manufactured and the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the importer maintain your place of business. For additional requirements relating to imported firearms, see Customs regulations at 19 CFR part 134.
(b) The depth of all markings required by this section will be measured from the flat surface of the metal and not the peaks or ridges. The height of serial numbers required by paragraph (a)(1) of this section will be measured as the distance between the latitudinal ends of the character impression bottoms (bases).
(c) The Director may authorize other means of identification upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this part.
(d) In the case of a destructive device, the Director may authorize other means of identifying that weapon upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) such a weapon would be dangerous or impracticable.
(e) A firearm frame or receiver that is not a component part of a complete weapon at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed of by you must be identified as required by this section.
(f)
(1) Any part defined as a machine gun, muffler, or silencer for the purposes of this part that is not a component part of a complete firearm at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed of by you must be identified as required by this section.
(2) The Director may authorize other means of identification of parts defined as machine guns other than frames or receivers and parts defined as mufflers or silencers upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this part.
(Approved by the Office of Management and Budget under control number 1140-0050)
[T.D. ATF-461, 66 FR 40601, Aug. 3, 2001, as amended by ATF-11F, 73 FR 57242, Oct. 2, 2008]
But how many shooters would have the presence of mind or the knowledge to do this? One big problem that I see with binary triggers is the guns changing hands on the secondary market, and the new owners not being aware exactly how this would work.
All this leads in one direction, for those who are logically inclined: repeal the Hughes Amendment, make proper machine guns affordable again, and watch all these secondary problems go away. But the issue of guns is so polarized that there is no room for logic any more.
Yes.It looks to me that Rhode Island is striking out on its own, without any real understanding of how its plan would work in practice.... by going off into uncharted territory, they are creating a law that is rife with loopholes. In a cursory reading of this bill, I can see that it's virtually unenforceable.
This also illustrates that a piecemeal, state-by-state approach to "ghost guns" isn't going to work.
In theory, they could double the rate of fire. But there's a safety issue. Once you pull the trigger and fire the first shot, you are committed to firing the second shot (when you release the trigger). I don't see any way you could abort the second shot. And, a shooter unfamiliar with that particular gun's setup would have no way of knowing this. Installing a binary trigger could thus expose you to legal liability if something goes wrong.
Note: I had a reweld M1 Garand that would sometimes double unexpectedly. This was scary, to say the least.
It shouldn't take legislation for shooters to avoid things like binary triggers. They should do so out of a sense of self-preservation.
Not remotely the same.With this logic you should never own a semi auto because its too easy to shoot a second shot.
Eh, takes the same amount of trigger travel. Ive shot one quite a bit when I was selling them and theyre no more dangerous than basically any semi auto pistol.Not remotely the same.