RM 380 vs other pocket 380s

[Armybrat]

So, which online dealer currently has the lowest prices on these little pistols?

 

[C0untZer0]

Well, the rebate promotion has ended. It went from Dec 26th through January 1st. And at most places, they are out of these guns, so I'm guessing a whole lot of people now own these Remington 380s.

I think the cheapest they're going for now is $237.00 (no rebate) plus an unknown amount of shipping & handling - from Adam's Gunshop. I could be wrong though, I've been out-searched before by people on this forum.

 

[chicharrones]

Is the RM380's trigger pull really that much longer than the trigger pull of a snubbie? Or is it that the RM380's trigger breaks closer to the palm of your hand because it is a pistol rather than a revolver?

The RM380's back strap is a bit closer to the trigger than the back of a snub nose revolver grip. About 2/10" or so when I compare mine.

Also, my RM380 trigger does break nearing the end of its travel. Almost like there is a trigger stop present compared to a double action pull on a revolver.

I gotta admit, the first few times I fired my RM380 for accuracy I didn't like the late break. But when I shoot double taps or triple taps, I don't notice the trigger at all.

 

[Kaybee]

I don’t have 2 cents on this issue, only 1 cent because I handled on in the store but didn’t buy it. I really liked the way it looks aesthetically and I think a long trigger is good on a pocket pistol, if your gonna go that way.

But the salesperson (intentional) jiggled the pin out onto the counter. I guess you have to cover it in grease to keep it from coming out. No thanks. Maybe that pin stays in most of the time but it seems to me a flaw to add the potential for failure when most guns don’t have a floating pin. Why add that extra (small) risk? I don’t see what was gained designing it that way.

But it really is a nice looking little pistol.

 

[Fiv3r]

I tried three local places last week to see if they had any of these to handle...no dice.

I might give one a shot if I stumble across it, but that rebate was such a good deal that I might feel a bit of a sour taste in my mouth.

Great looking little gun.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

I personally am not interested in the gun, happy with my Pico's and Kahr. However I have read quite a bit about the Rem and they have a forum devoted to the gun. I notice that many will get a Galloway custom trigger for the the gun if that helps. It seems the gun is very reliable. I did handle one about a hear ago and did not find the trigger bad at all. And of course it is a pocket gun, so a long pull would give added safety. Maybe continue to shoot the gun and it will grow on you as you get use to it. Congrats to you, hope things work out.

 

[Tommygunn]

I don’t have 2 cents on this issue, only 1 cent because I handled on in the store but didn’t buy it. I really liked the way it looks aesthetically and I think a long trigger is good on a pocket pistol, if your gonna go that way.

But the salesperson (intentional) jiggled the pin out onto the counter. I guess you have to cover it in grease to keep it from coming out. No thanks. Maybe that pin stays in most of the time but it seems to me a flaw to add the potential for failure when most guns don’t have a floating pin. Why add that extra (small) risk? I don’t see what was gained designing it that way.

But it really is a nice looking little pistol.

The ONLY ways I have gotten the pin out on mine is to deliberately align the takeout hole over the pin and jiggle it, or poke it out with a straightened paperclip from the opposite hole. It has never come out or interfered with functioning under any other circumstance.
I prefer takedown pins be more secure, yes....but the fact is, the RM 380 pin does work.

 

[Kaybee]

I believe you, but it still made me nervous. Is there any benefit from designing it that way?

 

[Fiv3r]

I believe you, but it still made me nervous. Is there any benefit from designing it that way?

Maybe the thought process is being able to field strip it without tools? I know guns like the lcp are supposed to be broken down using an empty case. I dunno about that claim. Every lcp I've owned requires a bit more leverage to jimmie that pin out.

Still, the pin would make me nervous too. I had a small RIA Officer .45 that would walk the pin out when you fired it if you bumped it with your finger and jam the gun up.

 

[mcb]

The pin is really a non-issue. Think about what has to happen for that pin to come out during normal operation. The slide has to be retracted to just the right spot to get it out. It's not going to stop at that location during normal firing and use. Think about how fast that pin would have to move laterally to get into the hole while the slide cycles. Again, not going to happen. Its a non-issue as far as I am concerned.

 

[gc70]

I believe you, but it still made me nervous. Is there any benefit from designing it that way?

Using a pin alone minimizes the width of the gun. Putting a useful arm on the end of the pin could substantially increase width in such a small gun and relocating the pic below the slide would probably require making the gun taller.

 

[chicharrones]

I don’t have 2 cents on this issue, only 1 cent because I handled on in the store but didn’t buy it. I really liked the way it looks aesthetically and I think a long trigger is good on a pocket pistol, if your gonna go that way.

But the salesperson (intentional) jiggled the pin out onto the counter. I guess you have to cover it in grease to keep it from coming out. No thanks. Maybe that pin stays in most of the time but it seems to me a flaw to add the potential for failure when most guns don’t have a floating pin. Why add that extra (small) risk? I don’t see what was gained designing it that way.

Yep. I covered that in post 7.

If the salesman only did the align-and-shake without speaking about why the pin won't come out in actual use, well either he's trying to upsell to another gun or he's fed up with Remington in general.

Of course, the salesman might genuinely not like the design. There are guns in existence that I certainly wouldn't purchase with my money.

 

[C0untZer0]

I believe you, but it still made me nervous. Is there any benefit from designing it that way?

I don't think it was designed that way. The pin in the Rohrbaugh R9 and R380 must be pushed out.

I've never had the pin walk on my RM380. A member here - Ibmikey - turned his RM380 sideways, with the pin hole opening facing down, fired it and didn't have any problems:

I heard the scare story about the disassembly pin and shot three mags full of ammo with the left side of the pistol facing the ground and my otherwise flawless RM 380 did exactly nothing but shoot, no pin loss, no slide flying to China, no Mikey with big tears. My pistol has a difficult trigger to get accustomed to but serves as a truck gun and gets a lot of shooting time as a result.