Robbed

[LemmyCaution]

To the OP:

Could you clear up whether the firearms were stolen from your VT house, or your RI house? If from VT, I will keep an ear open to whether they come up for sale around here.

 

[searcher451]

I'm sorry for your loss and hope that the police nail the crooks who took them and return your weapons to you. At the same time, this is a good reminder for everyone to keep good notes/records on the guns you own, with serial numbers included, so that if something bad happens to you, you might have some recourse at the end of the day.

 

[svtruth]

Thanks All

I may be still missing the guns, but I'm not short on sympathy or good wishes.
Yes, guns in unoccupied VT house w Master lock on door. the house is in northern VT so south is only dir to go. None seems like a modern urban thug gun, the semi auto is a .22, and the Colt and the Vaquero could be used to anchor a canoe. I'm sure going to miss the .44s. Guns were in locked cases in an interior closet. I'm guessing it was done in daylight so neighbor did not see lights.
Thief left door open.
I will post on other sites, thanks.

 

[Zoogster]

@ Zoogster I disagree with you saying the guns probably went south, probably the opposite. Guns on the street in the south are so common its ridiculous. Guns in northern states are more expensive on the streets in the north.

No I think you misunderstood my long post. I agreed he probably just meant south initially.
However a large proportion of recovered guns from the East Coast tend to be recovered in the south. Which I could also see resulting in someone assuming most of the guns are going there.
When in fact most do not go there, but a significant portion of those which are recovered do go there. Only a small percentage of stolen guns are recovered.
The reason so many more are recovered in the south is because it is more likely a stolen gun will be sold to a non-criminal there. That non-criminal unaware that it is a stolen or illegal gun is then more likely to take it into regular channels of trade. Which leads to it being located.

So stolen guns that do end up or make there way into the south are eventually located more so than in most of the nation. So if someone compiled statistics it could easily disproportionally seem that a larger percentage of them headed to the south simply because a lot of the small percentage know because they were recovered were recovered there.
While the vast majority which are never recovered didn't show up there.
In the North criminals typically only sell or transfer them to other criminals, so they remain outside of the system that would red flag them, which means most are never seen again.

 

[Oregun89]

Robbery: the felonious taking of personal property from someone using force or the threat of force.

Burglary: entry into a building illegally with intent to commit a crime, esp. theft

Your home was burglarized, not robbed. Since you have made a case of it, it is important that you understand the difference.

 

[tpaw]

Robbed

Very sorry to hear about your misfortune, but you were burglarized not robbed. Robbery is a crime committed against a person, not property. If and when filling out any police reports, be sure to use the right terminology so the crime can be classified properly for investigation.
Good luck.....

 

[psyopspec]

Once you have more guns than you can carry at one time you next purchase should be a safe for the safety of the public or am I wrong ?

Ridiculous. No one is responsible for any crime committed with those stolen guns except the perpetraitor.

 

[wishin]

double post

 

[wishin]

Very sorry to hear about your misfortune, but you were burglarized not robbed. Robbery is a crime committed against a person, not property. If and when filling out any police reports, be sure to use the right terminology so the crime can be classified properly for investigation.
Good luck.....

Semantics. When your house is burglarized, you've been robbed........

 

[aaronc]

svtruth,
good luck on getting your guns back.

josephbw,
thanks for posting us.


Best Regards,
Aaron Crowder
Founder/StolenWeapon.com

 

[Ala Dan]

Sorry for your loss sir, as the ole' saying goes "a thief is born every minute"~!
And, I actually believe that, as some scumbag too lazy to work and get their
own; but very willing too take someone else's property. Hope the police can
catch them in short order~!

 

[leadcounsel]

as the ole' saying goes "a thief is born every minute"~!

Yeah, and some take public office!

 

[gym]

Think about someone new in your life, who you showed or mentioned, your guns to. It's usually someone you know or they tell someone they know. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts if you think on it for a few days, you will come up with that person, maybe a girl you just met. Then call them up and tell them something like "I got robbed" and wait for a response. If they get off the phone real quick, you may have found your thief. It worked for me about 30 years ago. The person just reacted all wrong, instead of asking if I was ok, they said they had to go. After a bit of digging I fouund out my suspicions were correct. And it was a girl who told some guys.

 

[huntsman]

I'm guessing it was done in daylight so neighbor did not see lights.
Thief left door open.

they're just welcoming you to the neighborhood.

 

[ATBackPackin]

Bradford VT? I went through Bradford VT last year on my way to Harvey Lake on vacation. Really didn't strike me as the kind of place where you would expect thugs looking for guns. I wonder if it was some kids who stumbled upon them and it was a crime of opportunity. By that I mean, yes they illegally broke in with the intent of looking around and found them in the closet and figured they could make some quick money. Just an idea. Doesn't make it any less disgusting and I wish you the best of luck in recovering them.

I also find it absolutely repugnant that four people would chime in with their infinite wisdom to correct someone that they should have used burglarized instead of robbed. Remember gentlemen that karma is a b****! If you truly just wanted to inform him without showing off your obvious wisdom, you could have simply sent a PM.

Shawn

 

[c919]

Fully auto AK-47s can be bought on the street in Louisiana for under $400, in NYC for example you would be lucky to find a 9MM for that price in the hood.

Pacifist,

Really? No. Do you have any idea how expensive NFA guns actually cost? Have you bought illegal fully automatic weapons in multiple parts of the country? I hope you're just blowing some smoke...

On top of that, how many times have you actually heard of a full auto gun being used in a crime. It really doesn't happen. That's just the BS media playing with your head.

 

[tpaw]

Ridiculous. No one is responsible for any crime committed with those stolen guns except the perpetraitor.

I agree, but it would be prudent to keep them in a safe.

 

[Barksdale123]

Down South, I was thinking south side Chicago or Miami.

 

[Barksdale123]

Quote:
Ridiculous. No one is responsible for any crime committed with those stolen guns except the perpetraitor


Thank you. People make wrong moral choices. Dad always told me that "a lock keeps and honest man from meddling". Where does it end, your safe was not two inches of hardened steel, you didn't have a motion detector, your safe wasnot disguised as a ligerie cabinet. Although I always lock my car, I feel one should be able to leave you car open with the keys in it ( taught my kids, If its not yours don't touch it). I understand the reality of the world we live in today, but this idea that if your defenses are not strong enough, then its your fault is rediculous and IMO feeding the crime peoblem.

 

[hemiram]

My friend had his pre 64 Winchester 189x (Can't remember what it was) lever action stolen about 10 years ago. It was in mint condition, and had only been fired a couple of times. He actually shot a rough looking one that the burglars left behind when they stole the Winchester and an old shotgun. They missed the safe he had built into a linen closet completely. He long ago gave up any hope of it being found. About a week ago, the police called and said they had it. They had found it during a raid on a house where drugs were being sold. When they told him the name of the couple arrested, he was kind of shocked, the guy used to be his next door neighbor. Odd thing was, he would have been 12 when he stole the gun. He got an early start, I guess.

 

[Leanwolf]

ATBACKPACKIN - " Bradford VT? I went through Bradford VT last year on my way to Harvey Lake on vacation. Really didn't strike me as the kind of place where you would expect thugs looking for guns. "

Respectfully... today, any place is the kind of place where thugs go looking for guns -- and other goods -- to steal.

L.W.

 

[Jason_W]

Man, sorry to hear that. The sort of break in that happened to you is one of the most common types of property crime here in rural VT. The more nefarious locals learn real quick which dwellings are not inhabited year round. Statistically speaking, it's likely the perps are locals. I would start checking with gun and pawn shops in a 50 mile radius, including across the river in New Hampshire. Also, maybe spend some time at shooting spots in the area and see if anyone shows up to try out your guns.

 

[Gryffydd]

Semantics. When your house is burglarized, you've been robbed........

I love how people say "Semantics" as if semantics are trivial or unimportant when they're only the very structure that allows us to communicate with each other.

When your house is burglarized, you've been burglarized. When you've been robbed you've been robbed. They are two very separate and distinct things. Using one when you should have used the other paints a false picture in the minds of all your readers. If you actually want people to know what happened or the idea you're trying to get across you have to use the right words. Until we discover telepathy, words are all we have.

 

[huntsman]

Man, sorry to hear that. The sort of break in that happened to you is one of the most common types of property crime here in rural VT. The more nefarious locals learn real quick which dwellings are not inhabited year round. Statistically speaking, it's likely the perps are locals. I would start checking with gun and pawn shops in a 50 mile radius, including across the river in New Hampshire. Also, maybe spend some time at shooting spots in the area and see if anyone shows up to try out your guns.

+1 some here don't understand the rural mentality; I doubt very much it was a roving band of thugs unless you consider the neighbors thugs.

Good luck getting them back because I doubt they'll be sold on the open market.

 

[gym]

Like I said it's someone local, maybe a neighboors kid