Rocker David Crosby fined $5,000 over gun charge

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They're are two sets of laws in NYC. One for rich liberals,one for everyone else! If you went to NYC and were discovered with a handgun in your luggage,you would be spending a year in jail. I also notice that despite it being a Federal offense he is not being charged for having weed and a gun. If he was a working class black man he would be up on Federal charges.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?section=CELEBRITY&oid=54391
Rocker David Crosby fined $5,000 over gun charge

NEW YORK - Rock musician David Crosby was fined $5,000 on Friday after pleading guilty to attempted criminal possession of a weapon following his arrest in New York in March when a gun, knife and marijuana were found in his luggage.


In exchange for his plea in which one count of unlawful possession of marijuana was dismissed, Crosby, 62, was given a conditional discharge as long as he pays the fine and does not get rearrested.


Crosby, a Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Famer and founding member of the Byrds and Crosby, Stills and Nash, will be formally sentenced on September 15 in New York State Supreme Court.


Assistant District Attorney Mark Dahl told State Supreme Court Judge Michael Ambrecht that prosecutors were recommending the sentence "based on the unique circumstances" surrounding Crosby's gun charge.


Although illegal in New York, the gun was obtained legally in California.


"I have in my possession a certified letter from the State of California showing that defendant legally purchased and registered the firearm in question in California.


"Secondly...the firearm was found not on his person or in public but instead...found secured in a bag inside Crosby's Times Square hotel room," Dahl said.


Crosby was arrested on March 6 at 1 a.m. after a maid found a loaded .45-caliber handgun, a knife and a small amount of marijuana that he left behind after checking out of the hotel.


After police were called, Crosby, who was performing that night with his band CPR, at a Wayne New Jersey college, discovered he was missing a piece of his luggage. He telephoned the hotel to say he would return to pick it up and was met by New York police who arrested him.
 
I don't fault the man for wanting to carry, but I do believe that if he smoked a bit less weed, he might remember where he left his luggage.
Pehaps, in the future he'll be more carefull.
 
Anybody remember the black Navy veteran who used a gun legally purchased in Virginia to prevent an intruder from harming his child?

Happened in New York, but apparently this guy doesn't have the same pull as David Crosby. I believe he did some jail time
 
How can he have a legaly purchased firearm? Isn't there a " are you a habitual drug user" clause that would prevent him? He has been arrested (dozens??) of times,would that not come out on a insant check?
 
so from this article it sounds like he left a suitcase in his room with the gun inside? i would be pretty pissed at the maid for rummaging through my stuff.
 
I want to know what a maid was doing going through the man's luggage. We get things left in the rooms here all the time and we don't open closed luggage for 30 days after it is left. They didn't even give the guy time to call and inquire as to whether he left it; or where to send it if he did.

I just packed up and shipped a suitcase that was 36# to a guy who left it here. I never opened it nor would I. My housekeepers are likewise instructed that they are not to open found property left on the premises. He called the next day, gave me a CC# to pay for the shipping and I boxed the thing up and sent it to him. As it turns out he was a missionary and there were several thousand dollars in contributions, both monetary and negotiable instrument, that were for his mission in Brazil.
 
afaik

The luggage was not Identified as his and was in the hotel lobby. It was opened in an attempt to identify the owner,Crosby called up the hotel after they had allready alerted the police to the .45 and weed.

Navy Vet Ron Dixon was facing a year in jail for having an unregistered gun and using it when a habitual criminal ran toward his sons crib during a home invasion robbery.
Ron Dixon immigrated from Jamaica and was working 7 days a week to support his family and never had time to find his way around the myriad byzantine NYC bureacracy to register his pistol that he bought legaly in FL.
Only pressure from concerned citizens like us did he escape with a massive fine and one day in jail.
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/news/kabanews/read_comments.asp?nl=4482669568416
the difference between the Crosby case and the Dixon case indicate to me that our gun laws are fixed,there is one law for the rich and an other for the rest of us.
 
It seems that many people are fine with unConstitutional laws being enforced as long as they are enforced on someone they don't like.

Just because he's rich or a lib doesn't make the law any less unConstitutional.
 
sgt bob,

I'd say that selective enforcement of a law, which we see so often when a "connected person" is involved, is a separate issue from the (un)constitutional nature of that law. Worthy of discussion.

Although the political/moral overtones in this story do come into play.
 
In New York City, a parking violation can run you $115 (handicapped parking is $180) - I'd say Crosby got off cheap at $5k for his mishap with the handgun. Parking fine schedule is here.
 
Sergeant Bob

I think that every body should be allowed to carry weed and guns without being arrested. (Or even given a dirty look)

I am from NYC, my late father and my alive brother are both LEO's over there.
My family can trace it's roots to our founders of the USA. Yet if I went to NYC with my gun and got caught I would be charged and most likely convicted with a felony and spend a year in the hoosgow.

What angers me about this case and others like it is that Crosby gets a fine that he can pay as easy as me being fined 5$,no jail time,no felony.
If the rich and liberal had to face the same jail time as you or I things would be much better as the laws would finaly change.
 
I think that every body should be allowed to carry weed and guns without being arrested. (Or even given a dirty look)
I'm with you there!

What angers me about this case and others like it is that Crosby gets a fine that he can pay as easy as me being fined 5$,no jail time,no felony.
I don't like that much either. It's just hard for me to advocate the violation of someone elses rights because I can't get mine. I don't hold that against Crosby, I hold it against the government who perpetrates it. I don't think shafting someone else a little harder (which is not likely since it's the Lib's doing the shafting) is going to help us any. It might make us feel a little better, as misery loves company.

It's like a thread (a poll, IIRC) on here a while back where someone from a non CCW state asked if people would accept a new AWB for nationwide CCW.
He got mad because everyone else had it and he didn't, and he was willing to give our rights away because he couldn't have his.
Maybe not the best analogy but, that's the way I see it.
 
That dumass Eddie VanHalen did something just as stupid. He walked thru a metal detector at a Major Airport with a .380 in his pocket. I think it was LAX. Same result, BIG fine and community service. Some of these LEOs can expand on this but the law is all about intent in this country. If I did something like this I dont think I would go to jail, but it would cost bigtime to get it straightened out.
 
The luggage was not Identified as his and was in the hotel lobby.

"Secondly...the firearm was found not on his person or in public but instead...found secured in a bag inside Crosby's Times Square hotel room," Dahl said.

?????????
 
I don't like that much either. It's just hard for me to advocate the violation of someone elses rights because I can't get mine. I don't hold that against Crosby, I hold it against the government who perpetrates it. I don't think shafting someone else a little harder (which is not likely since it's the Lib's doing the shafting) is going to help us any. It might make us feel a little better, as misery loves company.
I don't advocate violations of anybody's rights. The laws that allowed Crosby to be arrested need to be repealed.

However, the fact remains that there is such a law and it is not going to be repealed any time in the near future, Therefore, it must be applied equally amongst all citizens regardless of wealth and stature.

Selective procecution of the law is bias and bias in the judicial system is unethical and immoral.
 
I am from NYC, my late father and my alive brother are both LEO's over there.
My family can trace it's roots to our founders of the USA. Yet if I went to NYC with my gun and got caught I would be charged and most likely convicted with a felony and spend a year in the hoosgow.

I'm not from NYC. No member of my familty is a LEO. I have no idea where "roots" can be traced back to. Yet if I went to NYC with my gun and got caught I would be charged and most likely convicted with a felony and spend a year in the hoosgow.

What does who you or your family are or where you're from have to do with our Constitutional rights?
 
Yeah, like Detroit Police Cheif Jerry Oliver who was "caught" with an unlicensed pistol at the airport. I think he may have paid $1,000 fine, but then:
Oliver pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of possession of an unlicensed handgun. The conviction was expunged 90 days later.
He resigned shortly after this incident, but is now is the assistant to the Arizona state attorney general. Heck, he's already demonstated either a lack of knowledge of the law or disregard for it and now he is working for the AG? What a country!

If this was me, I wouldn't be typing this right now! :mad:
 
Unless I'm mistaken, Crosby does have an existing felony conviction in Texas (March 28, 1982 arrest) for possession of Quaaludes and cocaine, DUI of cocaine, and at the time was carrying a concealed pistol. Sentenced December 1985 to Texas State Correctional Facility in Huntsville, released August 1986.

Uh...correct me if I'm wrong here, please, but doesn't a felony prevent one from being legally able to posess a firearm after the incident of the conviction?

Of course, he waited 18 days on 'the list' in 1994 for that liver transplant, but that's the perks of fame.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
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