Rocks vs. guns...

[GAF]

curare coated rocks perhaps?

 

[Tommygunn]

It is an igneous idea to provide bassault weapons in classes.

 

[1911 guy]

Anything is better than nothing. But that doesn't mean your chosen "anything" is the best choice.

I (sort of) understand his rationale behind throwing rocks, throwing things is taught in the ALICE program as one of the last-ditch efforts if confronted by a shooter. But the program was designed before the idea of armed teachers had any real traction. He's giving them something to work out a previously known concept. But it does so at the cost of ignoring much more effective means of protecting kids.

Someone mentioned the recent spate of teachers and SRO's having ND's. Two things are in play. First, we're going to hear about every single incident on the national news in an attempt to sway public opinion against arming teachers and faculty. Secondly, at least one of those, the teacher in Georgia at the end of February, was a "martyr for the cause". That was a calculated event to show us the foolishness of placing guns in the hands of teachers. Expect more of that if the push to arm teachers gains any more traction.

 

[Elkins45]

hso writes:



Absolutely. It's a marbleous concept, and should not be taken for granite.

That’s not very gneiss. You shouldn’t joke about schist like that.

 

[Demi-human]

I think any human that promotes a bucket of rocks, over an armed guard (teachers, staff etc.) Is seeing the world through Rose Stone colored glasses.

Seriously, if the bucket was a good deterrent, then the signs that say "No guns allowed" would be great ones. They are not.

 

[G.E. Lee]

A bucket full of jellyfish might work too...but...wouldn't it be simpler just to put a bucket over the head of the shooter?

 

[Shimitup]

With 20-25 high school boys so armed my hope is that a shooter would be discouraged enough to try the band room down the hall instead.

The band room might not have been much better than woodshop, we were a pretty rowdy lot, might get a hail of mouthpieces from the brass section.

 

[JeffG]

We as a species are entering a phase of regressive de-evolution. The failure of this numbskull to realize that rocks are ridiculously ineffective to deal with an armed intruder is one thing; his society driven blindspot about firearms is sad, at best.

 

[doubleh]

We as a species are entering a phase of regressive de-evolution. The failure of this numbskull to realize that rocks are ridiculously ineffective to deal with an armed intruder is one thing; his society driven blindspot about firearms is sad, at best.

Sad but true. I had read the article before coming here.

I had some good laughs reading through the posts on this thread but the subject is not funny at all, just sad when we realise that most of the people in charge of educating our children have this mental capability. No wonder our children do not receive a decent education.

I do know a school principle that would carry if allowed and would damn sure shoot anyone invading and attempting to shoot anyone in his school. He even got tased last year. He was in the middle of a big fight trying to break it up when the cops showed up. They just tased everyone involved. He said the experience wasn't enjoyable at all.

 

[WestKentucky]

hso writes:



Absolutely. It's a marbleous concept, and should not be taken for granite.

Now that’s a great conglomerate.

 

[the iron horse]

I’m a retired middle school teacher (taught in a gun free zone) and I kept three or four baseball size rocks on my desk and a few others on shelves around the classroom. Along with the stones, I also kept two cans of hornet spray (inside my desk and file cabinet) and a stout hickory cane. It’s better to have items you can use for defense, than not have anything at all. I started doing this not long after the Columbine murders. Not a cure all, but it might help give students and staff a chance to disable or distract a shooter. It gives them a chance.

 

[scaatylobo]

AND -------------------- " stick & stones may break my bones but word will never harm me [ unless your a snowflake and now will commit suicide due to a posting on FB ].

The new world order will have little if no resistance at this rate.

 

[WestKentucky]

When I was in grade school we had practice drills for nuclear weapon attacks. We had to crouch under our desks. At 7 or 8 years old I thought it was pointless. Looking back I think it was a largely successful attempt to mold the minds of children. The superintendent may be a useful idiot but the bucket of rocks is the same BS.

I’m in agreement that it’s some form of brainwashing. I just don’t understand the direction. Is it intended to be a scare tactic to discourage the people who do these things, or is it intended to give the other kids some satisfaction in knowing that they are no longer just another fish in the proverbial barrel.

 

[JeffG]

 

[mjsdwash]

When I was in grade school we had practice drills for nuclear weapon attacks. We had to crouch under our desks. At 7 or 8 years old I thought it was pointless. Looking back I think it was a largely successful attempt to mold the minds of children. The superintendent may be a useful idiot but the bucket of rocks is the same BS.

those drills were never about surviving in the blast, they were about protecting yourself from breaking glass during the shockwave

 

[MedWheeler]

Elkins45 writes:

That’s not very gneiss. You shouldn’t joke about schist like that.

You're right. I really should try to turn over a new slate.

Otherwise, hso might put this thread to bedrock..

 

[Demi-human]

Staying well grounded will sway public opinion. Even if the move seems geologic in process, we have the benefit of actually being rooted in reality.

At the very least some are becoming to understand that violence may be necessary to keep them from being planted in Terra Firma. Please forgive me.

 

[huntsman]

Let the kids have rocks but give the teachers slingshots.

two pronged defense that should keep the thugs at bay until the Cavalry shows up, I could run for office.

 

[Tommygunn]

Let the kids have rocks but give the teachers slingshots.

two pronged defense that should keep the thugs at bay until the Calvary shows up, I could run for office.

Calvary is where Jesus died ....you mean cavalry, like George Armstrong Custer lead.

 

[BSA1]

Now, to be fair, a stone worked pretty well for David against Goliath.

David used a sling to gain more velocity and accuracy with his rock.

Lets keep the sling and rock in proper context of it's time period. The short sword a was effective short range weapon, the sling and rock a medium range and bow and arrow long range state of the art weapons.

A slingshot with steel ball could inflicted some pain but highly unlikely to disable or kill a attacker. Plus slingshots are banned from schools...just like school shooters are.

 

[BSA1]

It's better than nothing, and a step in the right direction.

I disagree. It is simply a feel good approach giving a false sense of security. A shooter can easily stand outside the range of a schoolkid to effectively hit the target they are aiming out. All this is intended to do is to avoid any decision making about adopting totally effective security measures.

 

[george burns]

No words really.

It's seems as if a good portion of this country is dumbed down to the absolute lowest form of intelligence.

This kind of crap is spreading like wildfire and incredibly embraced though.

Agreed, they just keep getting worse

 

[WestKentucky]

Agreed, they just keep getting worse

So do the puns in this thread. At least the “rock” puns haven’t devolved any worse. If they did then it might take A little AC/DC to Fuel a Halestorm big enough to get Jack Black to fire Tenacious D up and teach classes at this School Of Rock.

 

[George Dickel]

I did a short google search on guns in schools in Pennsylvania and state law prohibits firearms in schools. So, how is a school superintendent going to allow armed teachers if the state law forbids it? For those of you who work for a company, if your boss makes a policy you disagree with do you ignore it and do as you please? Not for long I'll bet. You're dumping on a man that is doing what he can within the restrictions of state law. Direct your disdain where it should be, the state legislators. The school superintendent may be as anti-gun as they come but that is irrelevant he is restricted in what he can do by state law.

 

[george burns]

I did a short google search on guns in schools in Pennsylvania and state law prohibits firearms in schools. So, how is a school superintendent going to allow armed teachers if the state law forbids it? For those of you who work for a company, if your boss makes a policy you disagree with do you ignore it and do as you please? Not for long I'll bet. You're dumping on a man that is doing what he can within the restrictions of state law. Direct your disdain where it should be, the state legislators. The school superintendent may be as anti-gun as they come but that is irrelevant he is restricted in what he can do by state law.

I like what Clint Eastwood said, I Absolutely refuse to discuss Gun Control with people who eat soap, and get confused by Bathrooms.