Ron Paul Builds Campaign on the Web

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LIBERTARIAN

I had my ephinany 5 yrs ago, and am only dismayed I didn't wake up sooner.

The more I read about Dr. Paul, the more I admire him.

Like another poster stated in another thread, at the very least he is forcing the GOP more to its true right. He is the compass calibrater if you will. He will have a lasting impact.


Jeff

Christian-Libertarian-Minimalist

Paul 08
 
I beg to differ. 20 years from now, mentioning Ron Paul will be met with the response "who ?". I support many of his views, but I don't think he's a viable candidate, and not a political force of any real long-term significance. Too bad for that. I wish it weren't true.
 
but I don't think he's a viable candidate
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I didn't think he was viable, either - till all this furor over the debates, and people wanting to ban him from the next debate... people who are vehemently opposing him are getting him more press. More press is just what he needs.

I think it's just possible that he could win the primary. Not especially likely, I think - but possible.

Count another Ron Paul supporter here.
 
salthouse,

I didn't say he himself will have lasting fame, I just said he will have a lasting impact.

Because of him, this country is starting to realize there is a real desire for smaller gov't and a return to true conservativism.

There will be more candidates, and more public support for them.
 
According to the latest Zogby poll in New Hampshire he is becoming more viable. Placing 4th in declared candidates at 3%. Romney has 35%, McCain 19%, and Giuliani has 19%. Undeclared Fred Thompson has 6%. The rest of the people who shared the stage with Paul and the big three are at 1% or less.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1302

It is also worth noting that Paul has been steadily rising since January. There is a lot of time for him to increase his support. I'm looking forward to seeing his numbers after the New Hampshire debate June 5th. Interestingly, Pat Buchanan just came out in support of Paul's foreign policy. In 1996 Buchanan won New Hampshire.
 
Below is what someone at another board claims he got from the Rs...

I don't know if it is true, but I would not put it past them.

I got a Republican Party survey in the mail today. It tries to reinforce a "grassroots" image despite nearly every question exposing some nationalist bent. The best one though:


28. In the race for President in 2008, who would be your early choice for the Republican nomination?
[ ] John McCain
[ ] Mitt Romney
[ ] Rudy Guliani
[ ] Newt Gingrinch
[ ] Sam Brownback
[ ] Duncan Hunter
[ ] Tom Tancredo
[ ] Chuck Hagel
[ ] Jim Gilmore
[ ] Fred Thompson
[ ] Tommy Thompson
[ ] Other __________
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If that above post is true, you got to love the fact that they have a Christofascist like Fred Thompson on there while completely ignoring Ron Paul. And to make it even worse Fred Thompson is not even a candidate. What is going on?

Warren: Can you post a link to the forum/board where you got that?
 
If that above post is true, you got to love the fact that they have a Christofascist like Fred Thompson on there while completely ignoring Ron Paul. And to make it even worse Fred Thompson is not even a candidate. What is going on?
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Care to elaborate on Christofascist?
 
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If that above post is true, you got to love the fact that they have a Christofascist like Fred Thompson on there while completely ignoring Ron Paul. And to make it even worse Fred Thompson is not even a candidate. What is going on?


Care to elaborate on Christofascist?
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I'm thinking it's more of that Libertarian love and tolerance... :rolleyes:

If the above list is true, there is a good reason... Link provided:

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08rep.htm

He's so far down in the polls it's almost insane to think this guy has a chance, at this point anyway...
 
I certainly disagree with calling Thompson a Christofacsist. In my opinion that isn't a very 'high road' comment. In fact James Dobson doubts Thompson's conservative Christian bona fides. I'm not saying Dobson speaks for all Christians but take that for what it is worth.

Taking one Paul supporters comments as indicative of "Libertarian love and tolerance" is also somewhat disingenuous but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
 
Originally posted by GoRon:
Care to elaborate on Christofascist?
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Basically it is a person who would impose their religious beliefs on the rest of the country. Or use their religious beliefs as a guideline for national policy and international policy. If they use these beliefs as guides for choosing which laws to create or oppose they are Christofascist / JudeoFascist / IslamoFascist or any other religion that imposes its will on the people.

I see the term IslamoFascist a lot on this forum and it is pretty much the same thing except it is not Islamic beliefs being used as a guide but Christian beliefs.

For example abortion bans and restrictions as well as anti-gay marriage laws are great examples of the Religious Right (Predominantly Christian in the United States) forcing their beliefs, in the form of laws, on the rest of the nation.
 
Taking one Paul supporters comments as indicative of "Libertarian love and tolerance" is also somewhat disingenuous but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Calling someone a "Christofacsist" is acceptable...? Offending hundreds of millions of people who are christians with one word is acceptable?

To me it shows a huge lack of intelligence and is nothing more than fear...and in return words like that start spewing out.

I'm not very religious, but I'm sick and tired of people throwing out words like...facsist, Nazis, etc. when someone else disagrees with them. Again, it shows a lack of intelligence and weakness.

As for using the words from one (very public) libertarian on this forum... Every libertarian that I've met over years all share the same views. To me they are just like republicans and Democrats. Most, but not all, pushing their opinions down everyones throat. I'll keep my status as "independent" and continue to think for myself thank you very much.
 
You have it backwards.

Abortion and gay marriage are being foisted on the public not by popular will or due to inherent rights but by a judiciary who legislates from the bench.

I guess the power of the state is OK as long as it isn't your ox getting gored.
 
Calling someone a "Christofacsist" is acceptable...? Offending hundreds of millions of people who are christians with one word is acceptable?
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I'm inclined to believe that you didn't understand my post. I made clear that I thought calling Thompson a "Christofascist" was unacceptable. This is partly because as far as I know there is no evidence of that being the case and partly because these labels do nothing to promote a thoughtful, peaceful discussion of the issue at hand.

I apologize if I am being a bit reactionary but I really don't see how you could take issue with my comments. Certainly in any public forum there will be a member of a group who makes a nasty comment that you disagree with but it is fallacy of logic to blame or besmirch that group due to the actions of one person.

That being said I am a Christian and a libertarian and I think the message of freedom and liberty should unite everyone.

Getting back on topic does anyone have any commentary on the poll I posted showing Paul gaining support in New Hampshire? Without the internet to help fight back I think Paul would be sunk. Modern technology is a wonderful thing.
 
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Another Libertarian here. I was hesitant to want to vote for RP, but after reading the texts that were posted in a different thread, he's got me convinced.

I would have rather sawn my own head off with a plastic spork before I would vote for either a Republican or Democrat, but I may have to save my picnic hara-kiri for another election.
 
I am member of the Libertarian party but changed my registration to Republican to vote for Paul. After the election I will change back.
 
The problem, rhinov, is that many of his supporters are registered as L or even D, and don't realize that they need to change to support him.
 
Well, I thought we were getting a headcount of L people but the count stopped around 11 or 12 before the belief purity debates broke out. I would say there are about 12 dyed in the wool L people on this board except for the hit n run ones who come by every election year. That may swell your ranks to 20 for a short time. :eek: :D
 
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