Ronnie Barrett retaliates against California's AB 50

[Taurus 66]

Did you all read this already? Am I days late or weeks late? or is this something new to the THR club?

http://www.barrettrifles.com/news/ca_outcome.htm

I especially love this part:

"Barrett cannot legally sell any of its products to lawbreakers. Therefore, since California’s passing of AB 50, the state is not in compliance with the US Constitution’s 2nd and 14th Amendments, and we will not sell nor service any of our products to any Government agency of the State of California."

More companies should do the same with any state that wishes to unlawfully disarm their citizens little by little or with the ban of any particular series of semiautos.

 

[Polishrifleman]

Yep... different thread a while back. I think the thread title was in regards to a marketing ploy or something like that. If I find it I will edit with link.

 

[Cesiumsponge]

I recall hearing a similar position from Barrett, but in slightly different words.

I applaud and respect the man for standing up for what he believes. Now if all other manufactuers would follow his lead, we might be able to talk some sense into an irrationally gunphobic society and resume supply for the demand out there.

 

[Standing Wolf]

More companies should do the same with any state that wishes to unlawfully disarm their citizens little by little or with the ban of any particular series of semiautos.

Yep. Barrett's integrity used to be the norm.

 

[jefnvk]

It'll be interesting to see what happens if a nationwide ban ever takes place, if he will close up shop.

 

[Cesiumsponge]

He'll probably come out with a .499 IYF (in your face) caliber or something similar. I recall there are several .50 BMG alternatives out there already.

 

[Joejojoba111]

I'd also buy the .499 GFY. go...

 

[Taurus 66]

What's to say Barrett cannot produce a larger caliber than the .50 for the law abiding Californians? ... like a .55 or .60?

 

[Marnoot]

What's to say Barrett cannot produce a larger caliber than the .50 for the law abiding Californians? ... like a .55 or .60?

I believe anything (excluding shotguns) bigger than .50 in bore diameter is considered a destructive device under NFA or some such, and thus is prohibited under federal law.

 

[Taurus 66]

I believe anything (excluding shotguns) bigger than .50 in bore diameter is considered a destructive device under NFA or some such, and thus is prohibited under federal law.

There are black powder rifles of .62 caliber. And besides, all the gun manufacturers have to do is just what Barrett did with California - stop selling to the federal agencies so long as the government wants to infringe upon the 2nd Amendment rights of its "law abiding citizens". Or is this where the feds can force the companies to service and sell guns to them?

The law's an ass!

 

[Marnoot]

Blackpowder weapons are not considered firearms under relevent statutes. But I agree with your sentiment.

 

[Taurus 66]

And why wouldn't it be? Does it not produce fire? Every time I've ever ignited black powder it produced a fire. Archery equipment is not a firearm. Air guns are not firearms. A flame thrower is a class of firearm. Black powder? Hmmm.

 

[Marnoot]

I never said the laws made sense! But I won't argue with .gov about being able to buy a blackpowder rifle throught the mail without any background checks and other nonsense. I don't know if they specifically say that it's not a "firearm." I just know that weapons that fire with blackpowder are not regulated at all compared to cartridge-fired weapons.

 

[El Rojo]

A Dead Horse.

This has been covered in depth. Here is the thread I started about it.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=141634&highlight=barrett+california

 

[Taurus 66]

Yeah but my version is better.

 

[R.H. Lee]

How many CA law enforcement agencie use the .50, anyway? How much will this hurt them?

 

[jefnvk]

THere are some 'sporting' exemptions to the NFA restrictions on greater thean .50 weapons. .600 & .700 NE for example. And, as mentioned, blackpowder wesapons are not considered firearms.

 

[mack69]

Ronnie Barrett for President!!

 

[Elmer]

So he doesn't sell NY, MA, ATF, FBI, etc?

Yes, Barrett's phony, feel good, PR move has been covered here in depth.

And many took the hook, bait, line, and sinker.......

But doing phony feel good stuff, pretending that it will have an impact, has got a lot of politicians elected, so maybe the presidential idea might work.....

 

[Taurus 66]

And, as mentioned, blackpowder wesapons are not considered firearms.

Yeah, according to the idiots in DC and some states.

G.W. Bush also believes the minutemen are vigilantes.

He also uses "gooder" in a sentence.

Former president Clinton smoked pot but never inhaled, then never had sexual relations with that woman, then did.

What politician thought potato ended with an "e"? Probably all of them.

Politicians in California wouldn't know the business end from the butt end of a gun even if they shot themselves with it.

It's no surprise the morons running America's show would not look at black powder rifles as firearms. Is there anyone in government with a triple digit IQ?

 

[Justin]

Yes, Barrett's phony, feel good, PR move has been covered here in depth.

And many took the hook, bait, line, and sinker.......

But doing phony feel good stuff, pretending that it will have an impact, has got a lot of politicians elected, so maybe the presidential idea might work.....

Have NY or MA actually passed a ban on .50 BMG yet? Does the ATF or FBI enforce bans on .50's?

And most importantly, who wizzed in your Wheaties this morning?

 

[MudPuppy]

Exactly.

You can argue what he'd do "if this" or "if that"--but in the real world situation of what ACTUALLY happened, he took a stand. Good for him, it was the right thing to do. Was it good for business? Man, I hope so.

Didn't some people rail on Ruger for rolling over? Now we're going to rail on Barret for taking a stand?

 

[Standing Wolf]

Politicians in California wouldn't know the business end from the butt end of a gun even if they shot themselves with it.

Actually, now that you mention it...

 

[Gewehr98]

Taurus66, be careful what you're asking for...

It's no surprise the morons running America's show would not look at black powder rifles as firearms. Is there anyone in government with a triple digit IQ?

Perhaps you would like the Guvmint to categorize your cap-and-ball revolver, or flintlock .50 caliber Hawken rifle, as a modern firearm? Y'know, fill out a 4473, background check, and all?

Yes, Barrett's phony, feel good, PR move has been covered here in depth.

Elmer, what's so phony about not selling .50 caliber Barrett rifles to agencies in California's state government? Sounds pretty danged real to me. What are you doing to keep those California legislators at bay, hmmm?

 

[Taurus 66]

Perhaps you would like the Guvmint to categorize your cap-and-ball revolver, or flintlock .50 caliber Hawken rifle, as a modern firearm? Y'know, fill out a 4473, background check, and all?

Number 1, I don't own black powder rifles (AKA airguns in your estimation) and have no desire to. It's just if I have to go through a background check on my long gun, why not those who buy black powder? They spessal?? Number 2, I don't want any varmint guvmint double digit IQ politician or agent man telling me I, as a hard working, law abiding, tax paying citizen, "have no right" to possess a .50 caliber Barrett rifle. I don't need their snot-nosed politics infringing on my rights man! We didn't elect them so that they may oppress us, but that's what's going on!

Senators, those in Congress, the US Supreme Court, know so long as they chew off a little at a time instead of one big bite all at once, we will eventually lose all our Bill of Rights. Eminent Domain, and now California's AB 50? I'm counting the weeks until Albany bans these rifles.