Rossi 92s in 357 Not Available?

[Mosin Bubba]

I haven't seen the Rossi 92s in 357 in stock on Bud's for a long time. I've heard that Rossi does their production in runs every few months or so, but I don't think I've seen a 357 in stock for almost a year.

Today I checked to Rossi's website, and the only 92s they even mention are in 45 LC.
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-list.cfm?category=8

I don't get it. Does Rossi not make 357 lever guns any more? Do these guys just hate making money or something?

 

[ColtPythonElite]

If you click on the rifle, it shows the other calibers available, including. 357.

http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=183&category=8&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=

 

[Mosin Bubba]

If you click on the rifle, it shows the other calibers available, including. 357.

http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=183&category=8&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=

That's what I get for not reading...

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I don't understand why there has been a. 357 drought for so long now, but feel certain we will see a flood of them sooner or later.

 

[Speedo66]

I absolutely hate that Rossi throws that "lifetime warranty" logo on every rifle ad. When you read the fine print, you find it's only for revolvers, rifles only have a one year warranty. I think it's nothing but deceitful.

Luckily, I haven't had any problems with my 92, hope it stays that way. Like it a lot. Good luck with your search

 

[bassjam]

I don't understand why there has been a. 357 drought for so long now, but feel certain we will see a flood of them sooner or later.

I think a lot has to do with states like Ohio and Michigan now allowing deer hunting with rifles using straight walled cartridges. .357 seems to be a pretty popular choice from what I've heard in a few gun shops.

 

[greyling22]

Whatever it is, it's contagious. Marlin doesn't like ma!ring money either. They're not making the 1894 in 357.

Heck, Ruger keeps ignoring my idea of rechambering the Deerfield into 357 and scaling up the bx25 magazine. Semiautomatic 357 with a 10 round mag? Call it the pigslayer and build yourself a money bin to scrooge mcduck in.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-medi...rogressive,q_80,w_800/1227081149388875334.jpg

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I don't believe the Ohio/Michigan theory. That would imply that a lot are getting imported and simply selling quickly. I don't see people here reporting that they recently bought a new one....When was the last time one of our members bought a new one? Guys post up your purchase dates if you recently bought a brand new R92 in. 357.

I bought a new one in October 2015.

 

[fpgt72]

Heck, Ruger keeps ignoring my idea of rechambering the Deerfield into 357 and scaling up the bx25 magazine. Semiautomatic 357 with a 10 round mag? Call it the pigslayer and build yourself a money bin to scrooge mcduck in.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-medi...rogressive,q_80,w_800/1227081149388875334.jpg

IIRC that idea did not work out too well....seems the 10-22 platform can not do everything...I wish they would make the M77-357 again, but I think it cost too much money....they might come out with one in plastic...provided they can make it cheap enough and charge 3x what it is worth.

I refuse to go Henry...lever guns should have a loading gate. end of story nothing else needs to be said....if it is not a 22 put a loading gate on it you cheap bastages.

 

[Jason_W]

IIRC that idea did not work out too well....seems the 10-22 platform can not do everything...I wish they would make the M77-357 again, but I think it cost too much money....they might come out with one in plastic...provided they can make it cheap enough and charge 3x what it is worth.

I refuse to go Henry...lever guns should have a loading gate. end of story nothing else needs to be said....if it is not a 22 put a loading gate on it you cheap bastages.

I thought that and opted for the 1894 over the Henry. I now kinda regret that decision. The Henry is a much smoother, better finished gun and there are some advantages to not having a loading gate.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I also don't care for the Henry's tube, nor it's additional weight compared to the Rossi M92.

My R92 has good fit and finish, with exception to the bland wood it had. It was smooth out of the box and is now very slick after a kitchen table action job. Some left over stain and 5 bucks worth of spar varnish dressed up the wood.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Fellow in Trinidad was selling his take down Marlin 1894 in 357 mag. I passed because I'm not buying anything.

 

[greyling22]

IIRC that idea did not work out too well....seems the 10-22 platform can not do everything....

you don't use the 10/22 platform. you use the mini-14 platform they used when they released the deerfield in 44mag back in the early 2000's. it's gas operated, proven to work with 44mag, just scale it down. or just use the same receiver with a smaller bolt face and drill the gas port larger. It's not a radical redesign. The only thing you really need to design is scaling up the bx25 mag. or the mkii mag. or any rimfire mag design.

 

[TreeDoc]

Bought a R92 carbine Dec of 2016, Haven't seen another since then. Plastic loading gate kinda bummed me out though.

 

[Speedo66]

Bought a R92 carbine Dec of 2016, Haven't seen another since then. Plastic loading gate kinda bummed me out though.

Plastic loading gate? That I hadn't heard of, mine is from 2015 and the gate is steel. You're not referring to the yellow plastic magazine follower are you?

That I replaced with a brass homemade one and they sell aftermarket stainless steel ones.

 

[bannockburn]

The last Rossi lever action rifle I saw locally was a Rio Grande model which isn't even listed in their catalog anymore.

 

[fpgt72]

I thought that and opted for the 1894 over the Henry. I now kinda regret that decision. The Henry is a much smoother, better finished gun and there are some advantages to not having a loading gate.

What advantage...sure topping off is not one of them.

 

[Jason_W]

What advantage...sure topping off is not one of them.

Unloading will be a lot faster and easier, initial loading is way faster, one less opening in the gun through which dirt can enter, no sore thumb from forcing rounds through a tiny and sharp loading gate.

No, you can't "top off" like through a traditional loading gate, but I honestly question the feasibility of that when adrenaline is pumping anyway. It's not like sliding rounds into a pump shotgun. The loading gate on a revolver round levergun is tiny and those springs will fight you every step of the way. I'm sure someone has suggestions on how to make the loading system smoother that involves taking the gun apart, clipping springs, and polishing small parts, but not all of us are natural tinkerers.Sometimes it's nice to have a plug and play rifle that's good to go right out of the box.

As for the all mighty "top off" in the highly unlikely event a Henry would have to be fired in a SD situation and in the even more unlikely event that the 10 rounds it holds were not enough to resolve the situation, I could see either tossing single rounds into the ejection port or resorting to the revolver I'd have in the caliber.

 

[montess85]

Unloading will be a lot faster and easier, initial loading is way faster, one less opening in the gun through which dirt can enter, no sore thumb from forcing rounds through a tiny and sharp loading gate.

No, you can't "top off" like through a traditional loading gate, but I honestly question the feasibility of that when adrenaline is pumping anyway. It's not like sliding rounds into a pump shotgun. The loading gate on a revolver round levergun is tiny and those springs will fight you every step of the way. I'm sure someone has suggestions on how to make the loading system smoother that involves taking the gun apart, clipping springs, and polishing small parts, but not all of us are natural tinkerers.Sometimes it's nice to have a plug and play rifle that's good to go right out of the box.

As for the all mighty "top off" in the highly unlikely event a Henry would have to be fired in a SD situation and in the even more unlikely event that the 10 rounds it holds were not enough to resolve the situation, I could see either tossing single rounds into the ejection port or resorting to the revolver I'd have in the caliber.

The Henry tube loading doesn't really bother me. It's just a mental block people have. Marlin better pray Henry never puts loading gates on their rifles. Lol. That seems to be the only hang up people have about them. I think they're much nicer rifles. If they get rid of the only gripe people have then Marlin is in trouble.

 

[Skylerbone]

With regard to purchases made for hunting due to new laws, Iowa also enacted a straight wall cartridge rule and you can count 1 Henry .357 purchased for precisely that reason. I don't doubt that there was/will be some bump in sales for those States involved or perhaps dealers in those States anticipated one and ordered a sizeable number in hopes of accommodating demand. Whether I am more acutely aware of levers or there really are more being stocked locally, I can say Iowa dealers I frequent are well stocked.

The loading gate vs tube debate doesn't phase me and my son is 5'10" at 13 years of age so he can handle the extra 1/2 lb. I would have opted for something different, was looking at both Rossi and Marlin, but his grandpa beat me to the LGS.

 

[TreeDoc]

Plastic loading gate? That I hadn't heard of, mine is from 2015 and the gate is steel. You're not referring to the yellow plastic magazine follower are you?

That I replaced with a brass homemade one and they sell aftermarket stainless steel ones.

Not the follower(it's plastic too) the gate, kinda weird never seen it before.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

Never seen one with a plastic gate... What color is it?

 

[bannockburn]

Skylerbone

Good on Grandpa! Nice to see all three generations enjoy some quality time together at the range. I see your Dad also has the CIB, mine did too only his was from another era.

 

[fpgt72]

Unloading will be a lot faster and easier, initial loading is way faster, one less opening in the gun through which dirt can enter, no sore thumb from forcing rounds through a tiny and sharp loading gate.

No, you can't "top off" like through a traditional loading gate, but I honestly question the feasibility of that when adrenaline is pumping anyway. It's not like sliding rounds into a pump shotgun. The loading gate on a revolver round levergun is tiny and those springs will fight you every step of the way. I'm sure someone has suggestions on how to make the loading system smoother that involves taking the gun apart, clipping springs, and polishing small parts, but not all of us are natural tinkerers.Sometimes it's nice to have a plug and play rifle that's good to go right out of the box.

As for the all mighty "top off" in the highly unlikely event a Henry would have to be fired in a SD situation and in the even more unlikely event that the 10 rounds it holds were not enough to resolve the situation, I could see either tossing single rounds into the ejection port or resorting to the revolver I'd have in the caliber.

Unloading...bs, work the lever,...the rest meh.

Perhaps I have a mental block against a large bore loading like a 22. And yes, a henry will never ever enter my house unless they have a gate like a proper lever gun should have...there is a reason the world went to the gate over tube like on the original henry....IT SUCKED IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE....and the current henry is just cheap and getting out of a few machine steps....thats it.

 

[someguy2800]

Two things I am never going to buy, a gun with a plastic loading gate, and a centerfire rifle I have to load through a tube. Why do I not want a tube loading gun? I just don't. It needs no explanation.