RealGun
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It is still dogmatic and wanting for technical references to declare that "fluted cylinders are strong enough". But whatever...it's a nice gun, in the picture and conceptually, and should make many people happy to own one.
Ruger GP100 44 special configuration
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RealGun
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I think they call that emperical data, but you make a good point.
CraigC
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No but you ARE perpetuating misinformation. If flutes decreased strength then it wouldn't be an option on the Freedom Arms guns which operate at up to 65,000psi or any custom gun with an oversized cylinder. Again, when you read about this stuff for +30yrs and talk to a half dozen gunsmiths who actually BUILD CYLINDERS, you learn how to separate fact from unfounded internet theories.
RealGun
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As long as you get to decide what is good information.
CraigC
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Good information comes from people who actually know. No internet hypothesizing involved.
mooninpisces
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Frankly, a .357 magnum, 8-shot, 5-inch barrel, Super Redhawk would be much more useful than a 5-shot, too expensive to shoot, short barreled, 44 special!
For most shooters, this 44 special will be nothing more than a 5-shot, 45 ACP revolver - without the moon clips. Only those few shooters that reload for this caliber and barrel length will benefit from this configuration.
Many more shooters would benefit from the aforementioned .357 magnum Super Redhawk alternative, if only Ruger would build it. If for no other reason, .357 magnum ammunition is much more affordable and available.
For most shooters, this 44 special will be nothing more than a 5-shot, 45 ACP revolver - without the moon clips. Only those few shooters that reload for this caliber and barrel length will benefit from this configuration.
Many more shooters would benefit from the aforementioned .357 magnum Super Redhawk alternative, if only Ruger would build it. If for no other reason, .357 magnum ammunition is much more affordable and available.
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greenmtnguy
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I've been waiting for one of these that didn't cost over $1K and a long wait from a custom builder.... guess I'll have to start rebuilding my Christmas fund early in January..
Zaydok Allen
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Frankly, all of the above statements are based on your opinion, and not on any sort of fact, and others do not necessarily share your opinion. "More useful" is an opinion. "Too expensive to shoot" is relative, and opinion based. "Short barrel" is relative, and is defined differently by different people. Not to mention that most folks find "shorter" barreled guns more practical for defensive carry, which is obviously what the 3" version is meant for. "More useful" how, and than what? Why would shooting a smaller faster cartridge be more useful over a slower heavy cartridge? In what scenario?
As long as we are sharing opinions, I will say that in my opinion an 8 shot Redhawk would be far less useful in certain scenarios. Its a larger heavier gun. To me, the Redhawk looks like an old GP100 that needs to go to fat camp. The GP100 is a more compact and balanced design, IMO. But that's just my opinion. Shoot what you like.
Bottom line, this is a thread about the 44 special GP100, and configurations people would like to see it in, not a thread about your personal preference for a different gun entirely.
If you'd like to discuss the 8 shot Redhawk, it's being discussed in another thread.
CraigC
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I can't imagine a world where I would be frothing over a .357 Redhawk/Super Redhawk of any kind over a .44Spl of any kind. The Redhawks are overbuilt for the .44Mag and just right for a .454 or .480. Hell, Ruger could even legitimize the .500JRH and produce a factory five shot in that chambering.
CraigC
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Yep! I've already got a GP "blue gun". 
I vote for the fluted cylinder. Wish they would have retained the interchangeable front sight so one could easily install what they want. It would have been nice if it had
been .44 magnum. Oh, well the Christmas money is shot. Now, if Bowen starts cranking out his Rough Country rear sights again in quantity add one of those and some
custom grips.
been .44 magnum. Oh, well the Christmas money is shot. Now, if Bowen starts cranking out his Rough Country rear sights again in quantity add one of those and some
custom grips.
Ruger's moving away from the plunger front sights in favor of dovetails, easier for them to make, and a standardized dovetail makes for more interchangeability across platforms.
I got a Bowen RC sight for my Kodiak a couple months back, try him.
Denis
I got a Bowen RC sight for my Kodiak a couple months back, try him.
Denis
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RealGun
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Understand the pressure factor here and the need for the gun to have minimum cylinder material, when 44 Special in a 357 diameter platform. It doesn't work to jump on a 44 Special thread and wish the gun in question was something else. I wish Ruger had a platform somewhere between the GP and the Redhawk, something with a fat enough barrel to handle 44 Magnum or heavy 45 Colt but only big enough for 5 rounds. I have two Redhawks, and they are monsters due to being 6 shots and having a grip frame with a way long trigger reach.
the Black Spot
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Is there rumor in the wind of an eventual 45 acp version of this GP100?
Not that i can afford either one, but just wondering out loud
Not that i can afford either one, but just wondering out loud
I think there is not enough meat for a .45 Colt or .45 ACP. Remember .45 ACP is bigger than .44 Special AND higher pressure than .44 Special, so you would be weakening the gun while also asking more from it in terms of strength.
CraigC
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Not enough room in the GP for a .45. The .44 is the limit.
Panzerschwein
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Are you sure? Regardless, I doubt they'd bring one since there as so many ultra hot .45 Colt "Ruger only" loads which might not be good for even a GP100 in .45 Colt.
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