Ruger Marlin 336 Is Here

[Bushpilot]

I'd love to have a new 336 in 35 rem, 375 winchester, or an 1895 in 444 marlin. Would also love to have a new 1894 in 44 mag. At the price they are now going for though I don't think I'll ever be willing to pay the entry fee. I just don't think the fun to cost ratio is there for me and I have all the rifles I'll ever need for serious uses. I'm glad I got my 1895 CBA when I did.



Your $400 1997 336cs is now an $800 336cs.



Not to be pedantic, but I see people saying this constantly. What you are talking about is not tolerances, it is clearances. A tolerance is saying X measurement should be 2.543" +/- .001". Clearance is the space between 2 parts. For example if you want a bolt to move freely inside a reciever, you would set a tolerance for the inside of the receiver to be 1.000" +.001 / -.000 and the bolt would have a tolerance of .998" +.000 / -.001. The clearance would then be .002-.004" depending on stacking tolerances. If you want more clearance you would set the tolerance to .990" +.000 / - .001 for a clearance of .010"-.012".

You're right, I used the word tolerance (because that's the word that was used in the post I was responding to) when describing both clearance and tolerance. I made an assumption about what the other poster was referring to and of course you're right the two words are not the same and should not be used interchangeably..

 

[Buzznrose]

Tighter tolerances aren't always a good thing like many assume. Gun manufacturing tolerances are always a compromise. Tolerances that are to tight and a rifle won't reliably function or cycle smoothly. To loose and its sloppy, may not function, and may not be as accurate. The tolerances for old JM Marlins were just fine.

Tighter tolerance does not necessarily mean tighter fitting parts, at least not based on what I’m saying. I’m not an engineer, so perhaps I’m using wrong terminology.

My point is the parts are CNC manufactured have a much greater consistency. Older manufacturing techniques sometimes required hand fitting, not always very consistent.

 

[Bushpilot]

Tighter tolerance does not necessarily mean tighter fitting parts, at least not based on what I’m saying. I’m not an engineer, so perhaps I’m using wrong terminology.

My point is the parts are CNC manufactured have a much greater consistency. Older manufacturing techniques sometimes required hand fitting, not always very consistent.

True.. I see your point... although I see the need for less hand fitting as being more of a cost saving measure... In the end, if the necessary work is performed the end result is largely the same...

 

[Mini30SS]

This seems like the guys who were chopping and sporterizing 03A3's 60 years ago. Wipe it down and put it in a safe. Your grandkids will thank you.

Nope. No hacking or chopping on my Marlin. Just a mild sand and paint Job. Paint is easily removed. Everything else stays original, but I may add a bolt on rail to the pre drilled scope base holes. So I can add a Dot optic. But everything will be reversible. No extra drilled holes, No chopping the stock, barrel or mag tube. That all stays 100%.

 

[Mini30SS]

Guessing that they will sell every one that they make, but sure glad that there is a pre-safety JM 336 sitting in my gun safe.

You and me both, brother!

 

[Mini30SS]

Your $400 in 97 was "worth" a lot more that $400 today. Likewise, $1200 today is "worth" a lot less than it was worth in 97. In short, while today's Ruger does cost more than your old Marlin did its not that much more when consider how much less today's dollar is worth..

I bought the Marlin for $400. 2 years ago. Looks to have been an unfired safe queen.

 

[Bushpilot]

I bought the Marlin for $400. 2 years ago. Looks to have been an unfired safe queen.

Well, I'd say you got a great deal.

 

[someguy2800]

You're right, I used the word tolerance in a generic sense (because that's the word that was used in the post I was responding to) when describing both clearance and tolerance. I made an assumption about what the other poster was referring to and of course you're right the two words are not the same and should not be used interchangeably..

Wasn't trying to pick on you or anything. Its all good

 

[Bushpilot]

Wasn't trying to pick on you or anything. Its all good

Sorry, you were right... I edited my post...

 

[Mini30SS]

Well, I'd say you got a great deal.

You're right. I did. But another consideration is that I could have bought a brand new Marlin in 1997. But I didn't even give it a second thought. I had no interest back then. Lever actions were boring. And common.

 

[adcoch1]

You're right. I did. But another consideration is that I could have bought a brand new Marlin in 1997. But I didn't even give it a second thought. I had no interest back then. Lever actions were boring. And common.

Lever actions are still common, but not boring. And the non hunting younger target shooters are figuring it out. And none of them know that $1200 is too much for that $450 levergun, so the new normal is high prices. Enter Ruger, with an equal to the legend quality product, they can get their price, and the game goes on... I still want one, even if it ain't cheap...

 

[Buzznrose]

During the 19 March 2023 Gun Talk Radio show, host Tom Gresham was talking with Cody DeSomma from POF. Link to the show is below.

Cody was talking about lever action rifles and how they are a very consistent product, versus AR’s that have a very up/down demand cycle, largely based on political whims.

This is why they developed their new 9MM lever gun.

https://pof-usa.com/firearms/lever-action/

It was an interesting discussion.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gun-talk/id190516844?i=1000604886948

I love lever action rifles. I bought a Winchester 94 a couple years ago. I’ve shot it only once, but plan to get it out more frequently this year. I have a couple Henry lever .22’s as well. Really want a new Marlin in .357!!! I’d love to come across an older one at a good price.

 

[DM~]

The other day, a guy asked me if I had a 22 he could get from me, I told him the only one I would get rid of is a pretty nice Marlin 60. He looked at it and said he'd buy it, I told him I didn't want any money for it, but what do you have to trade. He said he had a Marlin 30-30 he never used or even wanted and offered to trade it for my M-60, so I traded.



It's an older JM model.

I've actually been thinking of having it re-bored/chambered to 360 Buckhammer.

DM

 

[Elkins45]

There was a time in the mid-90s when there was a decent used 94 or 336 on practically every other table at most gun shows around here. Prices ranged from $200-$250 based on condition and/or the whim of the seller. A smart fellow (not me) should have bought every one he could get his hands on. Same with the $130 S&W Model 10 police trade-ins that were flooding the market. Hindsight is indeed 20/20.

 

[someguy2800]

I don't regret the purchase of any firearm, but I do regret not buying a lot of them. There is only so much money and attention span though.

 

[Sistema1927]

The other day, a guy asked me if I had a 22 he could get from me, I told him the only one I would get rid of is a pretty nice Marlin 60. He looked at it and said he'd buy it, I told him I didn't want any money for it, but what do you have to trade. He said he had a Marlin 30-30 he never used or even wanted and offered to trade it for my M-60, so I traded.

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It's an older JM model.

I've actually been thinking of having it re-bored/chambered to 360 Buckhammer.

DM

Were you wearing a mask when you made that trade?

 

[Barbaroja]

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yea! Wouldn’t want to leave evidence at the scene of a crime.

 

[DM~]

Were you wearing a mask when you made that trade?

I said to him, your 30-30 is worth more than my 22, he said he didn't care as he never used it and his boy has no intertest in deer hunting. I left it all up to him, but I'm glad he decided to trade as I just might use the 30-30 and my wife likes it too.

It had a sling on it and was in a hard case, I told him I didn't want the case, to just keep it for the 22.

DM

 

[Mini30SS]

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It's an older JM model.

I've actually been thinking of having it re-bored/chambered to 360 Buckhammer.

DM

Don't do that. Just sell it and buy the gun you already want in Buckhammer. Otherwise your destroying a classic, just to accommodate a modern cartridge. Also, is there enough meat in that 30 Cal. Barrel to safely bore it out to .35 Cal?

 

[DM~]

Don't do that. Just sell it and buy the gun you already want in Buckhammer. Otherwise your destroying a classic, just to accommodate a modern cartridge. Also, is there enough meat in that 30 Cal. Barrel to safely bore it out to .35 Cal?

Obviously, I have to check if there is enough meat in the bbl. for a rebore.

As for buying one, can you tell me where I can buy a Marlin lever in 360 Buckhammer please?

DM

 

[.45Coltguy]

Obviously, I have to check if there is enough meat in the bbl. for a rebore.

As for buying one, can you tell me where I can buy a Marlin lever in 360 Buckhammer please?

DM

Perhaps a Henry lever rifle. They'll be the first ones out, if you're so inclined.

 

[Mini30SS]

Ruger has committed to making both the .35 Marlin, and 360 Buckhammer in their 336 re-makes. Henry is only doing the 360. I would think the Henry would be more available in the 360. But I don't know for sure. I can say that I saw my first Henry Homesteader at the LGS today ($800). So it seems Henry is getting new models out sooner.

 

[herrwalther]

I disagree, first with considering Henry a budget rifle and second that the rugers will not be competitive.
Marlin 336 classic msrp $1239
Henry big boy steel sidegate 30-30 msrp $1057. A whopping $162 difference isn’t going to amount to squat in the real world price.

I wasn't clear in that post. A lot of what made Marlin great back in the day is they were a lot cheaper than the Henrys and Winchesters. You basically got Henry quality at Rossi prices from the CT made Marlins. Now that everything has gone up, Henry and Ruger are about the same as you pointed out. Marlin was the budget lever action to Henry, making Ruger/Marlin not the budget rifle anymore was my point.

My next lever action is going to be a shootable (non-safe queen) 30-30 or 45-70. It is really a toss up at this point if it will be a Henry or Marlin. Time and my wallet will tell.

 

[spudgun]

No real opinion one way or the other on the safety, but I can tell you there is no "click" in the world louder than the one made when you have a giant buck in your sights, neglect to disengage the safety, and drop the hammer onto said safety.

 

[chicharrones]

No real opinion one way or the other on the safety, but I can tell you there is no "click" in the world louder than the one made when you have a giant buck in your sights, neglect to disengage the safety, and drop the hammer onto said safety.

Yep. And imagine that scenario of a CBS Marlin used for high stress defense.