Ruger PCC But SR line discontinued?.

[armedwalleye]

Am I reading this right?? Ruger announces, with some fanfare, the return of the PCC, now taking Glock or SR magazines. Sounds great. Now it appears the entire SR line is discontinued, with the exception of the .22 and the 1911.

What the heck is with that??? Sounds like one bunch of bean counters aren’t checking in with the R&D department....

Any thoughts on the matter?

 

[Legionnaire]

My guess is that the SR pistols are not selling well, and the PC Carbine is outselling the original by a mile because the new iteration accepts Glock magazines. I know I had and really liked one of the original PC4s but sold it because I didn't want to have to deal with Ruger's proprietary magazines. Had the original accepted Glock magazines, I'd venture they'd never have stopped selling them.

Just my thoughts, but that's what you asked for.

 

[danez71]

MAGAZINE WELL REMOVAL & REPLACEMENT Make Sure Gun Is Unloaded!
The magazine well of the RUGER® PC CARBINE™ is interchangeable to accommodate alternative magazines. The PC CARBINE™ is shipped with a RUGER® SR9® magazine well installed and a Glock® magazine well in the shipping box. RUGER AMERICAN PISTOL® magazine well assemblies are available at ShopRuger.com.

That's from the owners manual I have but I think they are now shipping them with the glock and Ruger American magwell instead of the SR magwell.

 

[Deus Machina]

IIRC, the Security 9 also takes the SR9 magazines, so they're not completely out.
Still, a shame. I love my SR9C and would have loved a PCC to match.

 

[greyling22]

Ruger just needs to stop trying to make a semi auto centerfire pistol. The p89, too big and expensive. The Sr guns, meh. The American, same. The security 9 is priced right but has too few features. They're not bad, but they're not good enough, or priced right, or too late to the party to make a splash.
Regardless, nobody seems to want them. Now, take American, change the frame enough to take a Glock mag ( like Mossberg did) or sell spare mags for $10 each at minimal profit, and list it for $300 and it will move. Short of that, just give up.

 

[BSA1]

It doesn’t make sense to me either.

I like the SR9 and SR9c. The ones I have handled and shot are good reliable guns. They have a good reputation. I was surprised and disappointed that they discontinued it.

Best I can figure is it wasn’t hard to design the PCC to also feed from the SR series magazines so they added that magwell to entice SR owners.

As for the American pistol...

 

[Texas10mm]

Ruger just needs to stop trying to make a semi auto centerfire pistol. The p89, too big and expensive. The Sr guns, meh. The American, same. The security 9 is priced right but has too few features. They're not bad, but they're not good enough, or priced right, or too late to the party to make a splash.
Regardless, nobody seems to want them. Now, take American, change the frame enough to take a Glock mag ( like Mossberg did) or sell spare mags for $10 each at minimal profit, and list it for $300 and it will move. Short of that, just give up.

So you're not a fan of the Ruger 1911 pistols?

 

[someguy2800]

The SR9 was one of the best pistols that nobody bought.

 

[CraigC]

There is no "SR" line. There are several unrelated models with the "SR" (Sturm/Ruger) prefix. The SR9/SR45 have nothing to do with the SR1911 or SR556.

Ruger just needs to stop trying to make a semi auto centerfire pistol. The p89, too big and expensive. The Sr guns, meh. The American, same. The security 9 is priced right but has too few features. They're not bad, but they're not good enough, or priced right, or too late to the party to make a splash.
Regardless, nobody seems to want them. Now, take American, change the frame enough to take a Glock mag ( like Mossberg did) or sell spare mags for $10 each at minimal profit, and list it for $300 and it will move. Short of that, just give up.

Expensive? The P89 was dirt cheap back then. Right now the SR9 and SR45 are dirt cheap, brand new. I bought Dad an SR45 and it's a great pistol. Very comfortable to shoot and accurate. I bought three Americans for under $300/ea. Sitting here right now with the compact version and wondering why anyone would rather have a Glock 19. I have found the LC9 to be one of the best concealed carry pistols on the market and it's cheap.

 

[Legionnaire]

... I love my SR9C and would have loved a PCC to match.

Ruger may continue to sell the SR9 magwell aftermarket. If not, I will happily sell the magazine well that came with my PC Carbine (I assume it's an SR9) as I do not have nor do I anticipate ever having a full size Ruger semi-automatic pistol.

 

[sabbfan]

I love most Ruger’s in general and own more of them than anything else, but I have to agree I look elsewhere when it comes to polymer semiautos, except for my LCP.

 

[Deus Machina]

Ruger may continue to sell the SR9 magwell aftermarket. If not, I will happily sell the magazine well that came with my PC Carbine (I assume it's an SR9) as I do not have nor do I anticipate ever having a full size Ruger semi-automatic pistol.

I wasn't planning on buying a PC soon, though, sorry.
Of course, the only full-sized pistol I currently have is my Mk3. Since I don't currently hunt and can't afford pure range toys, my pistols are compact and more easily carried.
Which I do love my SR9C for, so it's a shame Ruger didn't do well enough with those or can't seem to break into a profitable market and keep something along that line going, or at least reuse the magazine design.
On the other side, I love Glock magazines for what they are but I'm not a fan of the actual pistols for my purposes. And having a PCC to match my pistols would be a huge bonus.

 

[js8588]

Still hope they simultaneously release a PC 10mm and Ruger American 10mm. I'd immediately buy both.

 

[Texas10mm]

Still hope they simultaneously release a PC 10mm and Ruger American 10mm. I'd immediately buy both.

I was very disappointed that they didn't release a PCC in .45 ACP at SHOT. While I'd love a 10mm PCC I'm not holding my breath on that one.

 

[BSA1]

I hope someone makes a aftermarket mag well that will accept either Beretta 92FS or S&W M&P 9mm magazines.

That is if Ruger doesn’t have a patent on the design. If Ruger does it it will boost sales. I would have already brought one.

 

[rpenmanparker]

The SR9 was one of the best pistols that nobody bought.

I am not nobody!

 

[rpenmanparker]

There is no "SR" line. There are several unrelated models with the "SR" (Sturm/Ruger) prefix. The SR9/SR45 have nothing to do with the SR1911 or SR556.



Expensive? The P89 was dirt cheap back then. Right now the SR9 and SR45 are dirt cheap, brand new. I bought Dad an SR45 and it's a great pistol. Very comfortable to shoot and accurate. I bought three Americans for under $300/ea. Sitting here right now with the compact version and wondering why anyone would rather have a Glock 19. I have found the LC9 to be one of the best concealed carry pistols on the market and it's cheap.

And the LC9s is even better. But my SR1911 9mm Commander is my all time favorite pistol. Superb.

 

[GEM]

I've seen quite a few carbines lately and all have gone Glock mags. Smart move!

 

[Jeb Stuart]

The SR9 was one of the best pistols that nobody bought.

Was on the Ruger forum for years. And can say that a whole lot of folks bought them and loved them and still love them. A lot of Ruger fans really disappointed to see the direction Ruger is going. And there is a lot more to the discontinuation of the SR9 than meets the eye.
That said, I am no longer a Ruger fan of their new Semi-auto's. Turned in my Ruger Hat. They had a good run of it, but those are the days my friend. Even bought more mags for my SR9c. A really great, well built gun.

 

[rpenmanparker]

Was on the Ruger forum for years. And can say that a whole lot of folks bought them and loved them and still love them. A lot of Ruger fans really disappointed to see the direction Ruger is going. And there is a lot more to the discontinuation of the SR9 than meets the eye.
That said, I am no longer a Ruger fan of their new Semi-auto's. Turned in my Ruger Hat. They had a good run of it, but those are the days my friend. Even bought more mags for my SR9c. A really great, well built gun.

If I could have my SR9 double stack grip with a 1911 action, man, I would be a happy camper.

 

[John_R]

...the direction Ruger is going... ...there is a lot more to the discontinuation of the SR9 than meets the eye.

Now you got me curious. What exactly do you mean? None of their newer designs appeal much to me, but I don't see anything wrong with them.

 

[rule303]

The SR9 has better ergos, sights and trigger than the Glock out of the box. IMO of they would release a "2.0" version that took Glock mags like the PC carbine at a sub $400 price point they would probably sell tons of them. $40 proprietary factory magazines are a major turn off.

 

[John_R]

Glock is an example of "Do one thing, and do it well." Not necessarily, "do it great," just do it well. Ruger seems to like to try new things all the time, which is also good. As in, "take the ideas of others, and do them better and cheaper." That's also a good thing.

That's how Leo Fender brought us the solid body electric guitar.

 

[CraigC]

You can't make a pistol take a Glock magazine without a Glock grip angle. Ruger magazines cost about what I've paid for Beretta 92 or XD magazines. How many magazines do you really need? I very rarely need any more than whatever the gun came with.

 

[rpenmanparker]

You can't make a pistol take a Glock magazine without a Glock grip angle. Ruger magazines cost about what I've paid for Beretta 92 or XD magazines. How many magazines do you really need? I very rarely need any more than whatever the gun came with.

I agree with not needing a bunch of mags, but many folks think otherwise. Seems they like to load up a sack full of mags at home and then just blast away at the range. I reload the one mag per gun I take to the range over and over and still shoot more than 200 rounds in less than the hour my $9.00 buys.