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The Rifle, or the scope?
I think you mean the scope. I’ve never hated a gun that much.
Probably just how I’ve read it in my head is all.
Ruger SFAR
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I think you mean the scope. I’ve never hated a gun that much.
Probably just how I’ve read it in my head is all.
Buzznrose
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Didn’t like the scope. Really liked the rifle.The Rifle, or the scope?
I think you mean the scope. I’ve never hated a gun that much.
Probably just how I’ve read it in my head is all.
Buzznrose
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My post above was confusing and so want to clarify. I really like this rifle.
I only shot from a bench for around 26 rounds. This scope I’d bought I really didn’t care for so didn’t want to waste ammo on it.
I only mostly shot it at 25 yards as I was just getting it on paper. Was using some old (1980’s) S African 150 gr milsurp and I got it dialed to about 1” low within a few rounds and burned up about 10 rounds doing that. Shot 3 rounds of Win 150 Deer Season XP and that shot same place so I was good.
Took the gun the 50 yard area to zero and at that point I was having issues focusing the scope to be able to clearly see reticle and target at same time. Maybe my eyes are to blame. Maybe I don’t know really what to do with this scope, but it got into my brain I didn’t like the scope so shooting fun after that declined.
But I did shoot last 10 rounds of the milsurp in the box and it was pretty good. Matters not since the scope went back to Bass Pro.
only thing I did NOT like about the gun was the charging handle. Too small for my arthritic hands. I’ll replace with a larger one.
Trigger was lighter than all my other AR’s. Off a bench that was nice. Reset was short. I have little time behind a really “good” trigger so I can’t say much about that but for me it works fine and I expect it will only get better with use.
Absolutly best feature for me about this rifle was the weight! It feels very much like an ar-15. It’s light and very handy. I am looking forward to shooting it offhand in a competition. Much easier to run than the PA-10 I’d bought. Not disparaging the PA-10 other than it was too heavy for my liking.
More to follow when I get more rounds through it.
citizenconn
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I've got a dozen and a half or so "turds" in a number of chamberings ranging in weight from 7 lbs to 13 lbs and I have yet to notice that they smell bad!
I do like the idea of the SFAR but since I usually assemble my own I'm a little leary of getting something with such proprietary parts. I think Ruger (edit:I wrote S&W initially) will sell a lot of the 16" ones though and am looking forward to handling one in person. I hope they come with a good brake.
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citizenconn
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For not caring you sure were very verbose about it.
gotboostvr
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I know what you mean.
Alot of components are compatible, and for the ones that aren't, I'm sure the aftermarket will cover, at least barrels will be made I'm sure.
citizenconn
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As I said, I think it will do well with those shooters who are AR-10 curious.
I already have I think four 16" .308 Win ARs and three of those weigh just under 7 lbs so I've already minimized the weight enough to make them easy to carry around for me. While shooting those are a hoot, most of my large frame ARs have 22-26" barrels and are set up heavy for long range target shooting 800-1300 yards in .243 Win, 6 CR, 6.5 CR, .308 Win, .260 Rem, 7-08, etc...
I do find it interesting that Ruger (edit:I had written S&W initially) is offering an SFAR in 20" and wonder how many folks will choose than over or in addition to the 16".
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Phaedrus/69
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Does the light weight translate into being too snappy recoil-wise? I too am pretty interested in the SFAR.
Buzznrose
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Okay, unscientific observations follow:
I was impressed by the low recoil. I expected more…but really didn’t feel it.
I was shooting seated from a rest using a shooting bag, but recoil was about equal to the 7.62*39 PSA KS-47 I was also shooting. This basically means just a bit more than my .223 AR. I did not fire the rifle offhand.
https://www.caldwellshooting.com/rests/shooting-rests/bag-rests/tack-driver-bag/191743.html#start=1
I’ve shot a lot of clay birds with a 12 gauge semi auto and low brass rounds, and this was definitely less recoil by my recollection, but I didn’t shoot both same day so I may be wrong…
I have almost 300 rounds of mil surplus .308 from the 80’s that I’ll be shooting for familiarity and basic skills with this gun. I’m also gonna start accumulating some PMC 150 gr FMJ as it seems to be a cost friendly favored option. And once I find an accurate quality 300 yard round (like Hornady Black AMAX or the like) that shoots great, I’ll put some
of that in the cache too. But will eventually start reloading rounds at some point.
I used to shoot a 7MM mag bolt a lot, but those days (and that rifle) are gone. I want light rifles that don’t kick much and are fun to shoot. This rifle feels very much like that this far.
And last thing…I’m hoping Ruger comes out with a 6.5 or 6MM version of this and sells just the upper…I’ll be down for that in a 20-22” barrel.
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citizenconn
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Sorry. Thanks for letting me know.
I don't find the recoil to be an issue with the SFAR, but I installed one of these anyway...
Magpul MOE SL Stock Recoil Pad (limbsaver.com)
Magpul MOE SL Stock Recoil Pad (limbsaver.com)
Buzznrose
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Got away from work an hour early and decided last minute to rush to the range to do a preliminary sight in. I put a Swamp Fox 1-10 w/green BCD reticle.
In my haste, forgot my shooting rest, binoculars, and some targets, but decided to make the best of it and see what I could do.
Got it on paper fast at 15 yards and went out to 50 yards. It was a nice sunny day, 80 degrees and light wind. I am not a good bench shooter so my results may look like crap for a good shooter but I’m happy with them. I think if I had a good rest I would have done much better, but it is what it is.
This was my bench and rest. Redneck option…LOL!
I didn’t give the rifle any time to really cool down, and I shot 6-8 rounds to get it close before moving it to 50 yards. I would load three rounds, shoot a group, load 3 more, shoot another group, and not much down time. And a short night sleep and I was kinda rushing, so that didn’t help.
I do plan to do this again after I shoot this awhile, but for now it’s good enough for the IDPA stuff I shoot.
In my haste, forgot my shooting rest, binoculars, and some targets, but decided to make the best of it and see what I could do.
Got it on paper fast at 15 yards and went out to 50 yards. It was a nice sunny day, 80 degrees and light wind. I am not a good bench shooter so my results may look like crap for a good shooter but I’m happy with them. I think if I had a good rest I would have done much better, but it is what it is.
This was my bench and rest. Redneck option…LOL!
I didn’t give the rifle any time to really cool down, and I shot 6-8 rounds to get it close before moving it to 50 yards. I would load three rounds, shoot a group, load 3 more, shoot another group, and not much down time. And a short night sleep and I was kinda rushing, so that didn’t help.
I do plan to do this again after I shoot this awhile, but for now it’s good enough for the IDPA stuff I shoot.
Cool
I just put a Geissele in my new M&P 10 with 18" barrel. Then put a set of Warne mountain tech 7075 T6 aluminum mounts on top with a Leupold VX2. With Gold Medal Match it is automatic on 4" AR500 steel at 300 yds.
So impressed by the Smith, I had to go out and get a matching M&P 15 Tactical.
I weighed the M&P 10 at 9lbs 0 oz scoped with a postal scale.
I have a 20 inch and love it.
