Ruger Single Six Convertable

[bannockburn]

Waveski

That's pretty much the same reason I have been looking for that kind of grip; I would like a little more of a hand filling kind of design for my Blackhawks.

 

[Gun Master]

.22 LR vs .22 Magnum

Awwww heck !

None of you guys (y'all) even mentioned my Heritage Rough Rider .22 LR / .22 Magnum Combo!

Well, so much for us "el cheapo's" !

 

[Confederate]

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[chicharrones]

I like the Herrett stocks on your Single Six. Do they still make them as I couldn't find any info on them on Herrett's website. They remind me of an oversized grip that a company called Mustang Grips use to make for Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks. A buddy of mine has them on his Super Blackhawk and they make a world of difference when firing full house loads through the gun.

As best as I can tell, they aren't made anymore. You'll have to find them at a gun show or an online auction site. I found the Herrett's below on eBay a year or so ago.

 

[Wil Terry]

"and ALL of the BBLS were the seconds from the barrel company producing them. "

I don't know what you mean by that ...?

THEY WERE " SECONDS ", the rejects that did not meet the desired standards of the barrel manufacturing company. Ruger bought 'em all at .60cents per BBL inch.
And so it goes...

 

[Saleen322]

Saleen - Very nice. From a rest , I presume. Scope?

Yes, that was from a rest. I was testing different ammo as I had never done that with this Ruger revolver. Back in the 80s that was my silhouette revolver for small bore. It did well at distance but I never really tried to find out what shot the very best in it as everything seemed to do pretty good.

 

[Waveski]

"THEY WERE " SECONDS ", the rejects that did not meet the desired standards of the barrel manufacturing company. Ruger bought 'em all at .60cents per BBL inch.
And so it goes..."

What are we talking about here? Ruger bought rejects , intended for another gun , made by a subcontractor ? A sub made barrels for the Ruger Single Six but Ruger rejected the good ones and bought the seconds instead? All Ruger Single Six revolvers were made with reject barrels?

Please stop beating around the bush. If this is common knowledge I did not get the memo.

Rate me high on the Dens-O-Meter if you wish , but I STILL do not know what you are talking about.

Anyone else want to jump in and make sense of this?

 

[chicharrones]

Factory seconds to me are something that aren't first choice by set quality standards.

Years ago I used to by some car parts from JC Whitney which where unbranded in their catalogues. Yet, when the parts where delivered many times the parts where in fact name brand "seconds". That meant the parts didn't meet the quality standard of the factory and you got a lower price.

Now, how this applies to Ruger? Im not sure. It would have to mean Ruger bought lower quality or slightly flawed barrels from a supplier, then cut off or machined out the flawed section of barrel? Yet, Ruger makes their own barrels now so I can't imagine them using seconds these days.

 

[Waveski]

So , chicharrones , I'd hate to think that you went to the trouble to scope a "second rate" barrel.

I'll take that back if I receive a meaningful explanation.

 

[chicharrones]

I wont take that personally, that Ruger shoots just fine.

 

[Waveski]

No insult to you or your firearm intended.

 

[chicharrones]

We're on the same page. My apologies for any thread hijack.

 

[Waveski]

I am still waiting for , and interested in having Mr. Terry or anyone else expand on the statement that all Ruger Single Sixes were built with barrels which were "seconds".

I consider Ruger to be a quality oriented company ; that barrel allegation needs to be verified or dismissed. The information offered so far has been too generalized to be credible , IMO.

 

[bannockburn]

Waveski

First I have ever heard of it and I use to know some very dedicated Ruger .22 collectors and they never mentioned it either. I do know Ruger made a new barrel for a friend's Vaquero as they no longer had that particular barrel in stock.

 

[Wil Terry]

I am going to say this one more time;
THE BBLS WERE ALL SECONDS FORM THE BBL COMPANY !!!!! THIS HAS BEEN COMMON KNOWLEDGE FROR THREE [ 3 !!] DECADES NOW FOR THOSE WHO DO UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. AS FOR ME; I heard from BR,sr's own voice while under oath.
And so it goes...

 

[danjet500]

Barrels were originally supplied in the 50s and 60s by a few different vendors, Marlin Firearms being the first. As production increased barrels were also supplied by Wilson Arms and Small Arms Manufacturing. I'm not sure exactly when Ruger started manufacturing their own pistol/revolver barrels, however it was in the late 80s that they started making rifle barrels.

 

[chicharrones]

I am going to say this one more time;
THE BBLS WERE ALL SECONDS FORM THE BBL COMPANY !!!!! THIS HAS BEEN COMMON KNOWLEDGE FROR THREE [ 3 !!] DECADES NOW FOR THOSE WHO DO UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. AS FOR ME; I heard from BR,sr's own voice while under oath.
And so it goes...

Wil, it is not common knowledge to me or many others in this decade of the 21st century. Perhaps this information was insider info in the gun industry in pre-internet times?

Are you telling us that Bill Ruger was under oath in an inquiry or court of law and you were witness to that proceeding?

Can you tell us what years that Mr. Ruger had his company purchase seconds and what model guns they were used in?

We'd appreciate any patience you could afford us to explain this in more detail.

 

[chicharrones]

Barrels were originally supplied in the 50s and 60s by a few different vendors, Marlin Firearms being the first. As production increased barrels were also supplied by Wilson Arms and Small Arms Manufacturing. I'm not sure exactly when Ruger started manufacturing their own pistol/revolver barrels, however it was in the late 80s that they started making rifle barrels.

Were those barrels considered first rate or were they seconds as mentioned previously?

 

[Waveski]

I am willing to give this one more try.

"AS FOR ME; I heard from BR,sr's own voice while under oath. "

Mr. Terry , you have again tossed out tantalizing - but generalized - tidbits without giving us anything substantial. Would you PLEASE flesh this out , if I am to consider the story credible.

By making this request I do not wish to disrespect your seniority or knowledge base. That stated , condescension -
"THIS HAS BEEN COMMON KNOWLEDGE FROR THREE [ 3 !!] DECADES NOW FOR THOSE WHO DO UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE." - is not helpful.

I am quite fluid in the English language and would still like to know exactly what it is you are talking about.

 

[TimSr]

I have no information that confirms or debunks the allegations, but I can say with absolute certainly, that "common knowledge" of such does not exist.

I've owned mine since the early 80's, and have always been a Ruger fan and follower. First I've heard of it. Maybe it's true, but knowledge of it is not common.


Either way, it hasn't adversly affected mine, and I'm very happy with it.

 

[ThomasT]

If you folks knew who Will Terry is you would know why he most likely knows what he is talking about. But yes, I wish he would give a few more details. He is full of insider stories.

I think the key word is "Blanks". These could have been rifle barrels with a blemish on the outside or at one end of the rifling that made them unsuitable for the intended rifle but could be cut up and turned to make revolver barrels with no blemishes because they have been removed.

I have looked down several single six barrels and never seen any hint of anything less than a perfect bore. And the proof is in the shooting. The few I have owned have all shot better than I can hold.

And that picture of the 50 yard group makes me wish all my barrels were as flawed as his is. Nice shooting.

 

[Waveski]

Alright , I accept that Mr Terry is a knowledgable individual. That stated , his reference to barrel quality could only have been interpreted as a negative statement in reference to the Ruger Single Six.

In the course of this thread there has been a good consensus that the Ruger is a high quality revolver , and also that the barrel being "seconds" is NOT "common knowledge".

So be it. This has been an interesting , informative thread. I have learned a lot about the characteristics of the .22 projectile , and my confidence in my Ruger Single Six is bolstered. It's a great revolver , a fine shooter. Kind of classy too!

Thanks to all who contributed. The end.