Ruger Super Redhawk! Need a Scope!

[The Glockodile]

That is something I hope to find out soon when I get a chance to shoot it toward the end of this month.

Good luck, let us know how it turns out...

The Weigand mount offers the full surface mating to the side frame mount slots (and an anchor in the rear sight base), but uses spring pins to anchor into the top frame slots. The problem there is those spring pins offer only very small surface area contact. I shot about 6 cylinders worth, removed the mount, and found the pins were driving up divots in the top strap.

I was VERY tempted to get the Weigand Rail to use the Aimpoint 9000SC - but the method it used to "snug" the rail didn't make sense. As you said, a cylinder resting on a flat surface is a line... Which in theory is an infinitely high amount of pressure. The use of those pins sounded like a design flaw. After seeing some images similar to yours online - that steered me away from it.



Tikka rifles use a small cylinder in their scope mounts...

...fitting snugly into an appropriately - shaped hole.

For those familiar with the SRH, the steel of the frame is not as hard as you would think on a revolver containing that much pressure...

It's definitely not hard / brittle like common forms of Tool Steel we're familiar with.

The Picatinny Rails on Accuracy International Rifles - they're steel, no question as far as deformation is concerned...

I suspect that the original rifle mounts were cut into much harder steel receivers (rifle pressures?), and transposing the design onto the Super Redhawk perhaps wasn't the best idea...

...and, rifles don’t recoil as violently in multiple axes like Magnum revolvers do!

 

[The Glockodile]

The Ultradots - do they exhibit battery drain even when switched to "off?"

i.e. Use it for two hours, turn it off, throw it in the safe for six months - and there's still a lot of juice left when turned on?

@CraigC

Got your reply - no battery drain it is...

 

[CraigC]

The Bushnell Elite is a fantastic scope. They're actually what was originally the Bausch & Lomb line.

I never cared for the Weigand mount and also do not like the way they used those pins to engage the slots in the frame. I figured it would do that. Not to mention that it ditches the rear sight.

I'm a big believer in Warne rings and have them on literally dozens of guns. I just don't like their adaptation to the Ruger mounting system. Not the function but how they look. If they work better, then they may be a better solution.

There's a whole lot more stress on the optics and mounts when they're on a big bore revolver than people think. It makes one wonder if we shouldn't be clamping the Weigand mount in place and then drilling & tapping the frame for at least four screws. That coupled with three Warne rings would be bombproof.

 

[LaneP]

I'm in the planning stages of my trip at the end of the month and I'll pack along my .454 with the Warne mounts and see how they hold up. Some of the bullets I'll be testing are:



The 340 gr LBT LFN and the True Shot 360 gr will be with heavy, full recoil loads. I don't typically load to book max but close. That's more power than I'll ever need as is. If I can get 36 shots out and everything stays tight I'll be a happy camper.

 

[The Glockodile]

I'm in the planning stages of my trip at the end of the month and I'll pack along my .454 with the Warne mounts and see how they hold up.

No better trial than some hard kickers!

 

[The Glockodile]

Mmmkay!



I wonder which one I’d end up using the most!

The scope will definitely take a lot practice to point and shoot... But when I bring it up as though I was going to aim through the rear sight, looking up a little bit does get things lined up somewhat.

The red dot, on the other hand... Minimal familiarization required, it seems so much easier, already being quite familiar with Trijicon RMRs.

 

[The Glockodile]

Whoopsie! The red dot's facing the wrong way!



Some weights / dimensions of note...

Burris 2x20mm Handgun Scope with Leupold M77 1" Medium Height Scope Rings:
Mass: 333 grams
"Length of Feet": 14.30 mm

Ultradot 30mm Gen 1 with Leupold M77 30mm Medium Height Scope Rings:
Mass: 263 grams
"Length of Feet": 15.90 mm

"Length of Feet" pertains to the front - to - back measurement of the mating surface / underside of these scope rings...

...so, not only do the 1" scope rings have to contend with a greater mass, they also have to do so over a smaller surface area! The 30mm rings have it easy with the Ultradot - less mass, greater surface area!

That being said... There is this squarish high spot present on the inferior mating surfaces of ALL of the rings, as seen in the picture above - I can't tell whether this is some sort of MIM artifact or what - allegedly, they're machined from bar stock - but that's where most of the rubbing will come from!

Excluding that little factoid... The Ultradot setup will likely gouge the top strap less severely under recoil!

To employ a BubbaQuote which peppers various online Gun Forums...

"...it's just physics."

 

[Huntolive]

The more scopes I put on my revolvers the more I like my ultra dots
So many scoops go bad or r hard to use field

 

[LaneP]

Warne rings are the biz! Just tested a few rounds today and everything held tight without marring up the pistol frame. Loads shot were 12 rounds each of:

325gr Cast Performance FP PB / 10gr Unique - 976 fps
325gr Cast Performance FP PB / 11gr Unique - 1072 fps
340gr LBT LFN / 23gr H110 - 1317 fps
360gr True Shot WN GC / 22.5gr W296 - 1210 fps
360gr True Shot WN GC / 23gr W296 - 1245 fps

Mount screws were torqued to 25 in lbs per direction. After 60 rounds the mount screws were still tight. I suspected the design of the rings would maximize the grip surface to the frame and the full size positioning keys at the base of the ring provide full contact, and that's exactly what they did. Good to go.

 

[The Glockodile]

Warne rings are the biz! Just tested a few rounds today and everything held tight without marring up the pistol frame. Loads shot were 12 rounds each of:

325gr Cast Performance FP PB / 10gr Unique - 976 fps
325gr Cast Performance FP PB / 11gr Unique - 1072 fps
340gr LBT LFN / 23gr H110 - 1317 fps
360gr True Shot WN GC / 22.5gr W296 - 1210 fps
360gr True Shot WN GC / 23gr W296 - 1245 fps

Mount screws were torqued to 25 in lbs per direction. After 60 rounds the mount screws were still tight. I suspected the design of the rings would maximize the grip surface to the frame and the full size positioning keys at the base of the ring provide full contact, and that's exactly what they did. Good to go.

Awesome!

The contact points on the Warne rings do look like they have greater surface area...

...for the scope body, the “gripping teeth,” as well as “length of feet.”

Sounds like a really good choice!

 

[The Glockodile]

Still playing with the iron sights, myself!

Once it gets boring...

...I’ll be moving on to some kind of glass

 

[The Glockodile]

At the moment, with the long sight radius offsetting my tendency to flinch and poor trigger control - I can hit as well as I would at 50 feet with a Red Dot Sight, in typical pew pew pew pew fashion.

Ergo, keeping the scope(s) off for now...