russian hand roll crimp tool

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Has any one on here had any experience with these guys?
They sell shotgun reloading tools over ebay, their 12 gauge stuff has been up for quite a while under unbranded and now the name "forest camping". they recently added 20 Guage
And being that iv been looking for a 20 gauge hand roller I'm rather intressted
 

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Don't know about that one but Balistic Products has a series of roll crimpers you can use in a drill press or hand drill. just get a fixture to hold the base and roll your crimp. No min or max length requirements to do it. This one looks like it will only do fixed size rounds.
 
The lever on the right compresses the shell into the roller from the video the seller has in the discription of the product it looks like it will take any 3 inch shell iv ever seen and then some.
As for the bpi I don't particularly like them using a hand drill they are really inconsistent and I don't particularly feel like picking up a drill press for the thing either, that's why I have been looking for a old hand one with out success
 
I've got a 12ga and 20ga hand roll crimpers. They were made in Turkey and are very crudely made from brass casting.
However, they work very well and were given to me by the brother-in law of a long time hunting/shooting friend who was stationed in Airforce at Incerlic AFB, in the early '80's.

He was an avid hunter and like many couldn't afford expensive, hard to find shells. However, powder, primers, shot and wads were easily available, and cheap, but low quality. Only paper hulls domestically available. Plastic hulls, especially RXP or AA were luxury's.
As I frequented many dove shoots as an uninvited "visitor" on official business, I was able to acquire large quantities of free shotgun hulls. These were washed, and sent by friend to bil in Turkey.
They used these crude but beautiful tools to load "working" shot shells. He described the powder as being about like "dirty Unique". Considering Unique is considered, DIRTY, that's pretty bad!
But, it killed ducks!
Folded crimps were cut off, and card wads and shot/powder quantity adjusted to attain tight crimp! After 2-3 loadings, trim, "load em a little shorter'. Kinda like the Rio "shorties. But, they WORKED! In the Turkish o/u and SXS they were shooting.
Now, I know a lot of you are cringing now, but that's how it used to be in the "bad old days". Look up some old loading tool instructions!
Loading your own was part art, part alchemy in the '60's even here in the 'good old USA'.
The first time I saw GREX, I thought "INSTANT GRITS". = poor mans GREX!
If those Russian tools ever come in 28ga or .410, I'll have to have one!
 
that lever on the right looks like it determines the length of the shell to be crimped, it looks adjustable to any shell length to me.
 
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