Russian pro-gun ad

[White Horseradish]

This is a clip made by an organization calling itself National Russian Liberation Movement. I suspect they are some kind of a nationalist group, but I have no idea of their politics or goals. I really don't know anything about them. However, I thought this was a pretty amusing example of pro-gun activism from elsewhere in the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVNJiO10SWw

Translation:

Hello. Today we will be talking about dealing with insects.

None of us are guaranteed that a cockroach will not crawl into our house. Blech. Or a fly will not fly in through the window.

We all know that a flyswatter is very effective against flies and a slipper is great for cockroaches. But what to do if the cockroach is too big, or the fly is disproportionately aggressive?

In this case, I recommend a pistol.


End title:

Firearms must be allowed.

 

[armoredman]

Interesting. Nice Makarov.

 

[helpless]

Yes, interesting.

 

[mp510]

Nice commercial.

armoredman- the Makarov pictured appears to be the 4.5mm BB model (Baikal MP654K).

 

[GTSteve03]

I liked the sound effects they ripped from Half Life 2.

 

[Cannonball888]

My Ukrainian wife tells me the music is Butterflies in the Snow which was the theme song from a show called In the World of Animals, a popular nature show in ex-Soviet countries.

 

[Novus Collectus]

I have a friend in Moscow right now. I am going to ask her if her family living there has seen it.

 

[novaDAK]

GTSteve03 you're right...hahaha still a great ad

 

[40SW]

This does bring up an interesting point about the status of civilian firearms ownership in Russia. Obviously we know that it is very restrictive, but I do not know the distinctions made between handguns and long guns, club activities, transport of firearms, etc. I find it hard to belive that a rural resident in the outskirts of the Ural Mountains in Siberia, does not have at least a long gun, but hopefully Oleg can share some light on this. I think he is of Russian heritage. Furthermore, I hope this group starts a dialogue that will lead to firearms freedom in the former Soviet Union.

 

[Cannonball888]

My brother-in-law lives in Ukraine. He cannot legally own a handgun even though he is a former LEO. Anyone can own a hunting longarm, however, it must be licensed and renewed every 3 years. He does have an improvised handgun (pistol grip-only sawed off shotgun 10" double bbl). He also showed me some 7.62 x 25mm AP rounds, but can't get anything to shoot them with.

 

[White Horseradish]

In brief, in Russia you may have a shotgun license at 18(16 in some remote places). Generally a hunting license goes along with that. After 5 years of owning a shotgun you can get a rifle license. Pistols are prohibited completely unless presented to you by some government agency as an award. Every gun must be registered and written into the license. There is a limit on the number of guns that I can't recall.

The smoothbore Saigas are the direct consequence of this licensing scheme. They provide the near-AK experience to the people waiting out the 5 years.

There is also an oddball category of so-called "self defence weapons" or "traumatics". They are low-power pistols firing rubber bullets. Those are licensed separately.

Antique firearms are allowed license-free and are very expensive. You can get, say, a broomhandle Mauser like that. You do need a certificate proving it's an antique. The catch is, shooting such a gun is illegal because it falls under "destruction of cultural heritage".

Repair outside licensed gunsmith shops is not allowed, as the Russian law equates repair and manufacture.

Possession of ammunition in a caliber other than that of your registered guns is a big no-no.

Cannonball, your brother-in-law would be committing two crimes carrying some real jail time, were he in Russia.

 

[Cannonball888]

Cannonball, your brother-in-law would be committing two crimes carrying some real jail time, were he in Russia.

He's comitting the same two crimes in Ukraine. But I guess he feels he can get out of it if he's ever caught since he was an LEO. I don't know.

 

[rocinante]

The smoothbore Saigas are the direct consequence of this licensing scheme. They provide the near-AK experience to the people waiting out the 5 years.

Interesting info and tidbit about my saiga 12. I just thought it was a great idea but just shows products respond to market demands even in the former USSR.

 

[40SW]

Wasn't there a Saiga .410 shotgun version that was made to be compliant with that reg? I could have swore that it was on this forum where I heard it.

 

[VirgilCaine]

Antique firearms are allowed license-free and are very expensive. You can get, say, a broomhandle Mauser like that. You do need a certificate proving it's an antique. The catch is, shooting such a gun is illegal because it falls under "destruction of cultural heritage".

That's is a quite amusing crime there.

Also, the ad is pretty funny.

 

[White Horseradish]

He's comitting the same two crimes in Ukraine. But I guess he feels he can get out of it if he's ever caught since he was an LEO. I don't know.

The strictness of Russian laws is mitigated by lax enforcement.

 

[worker]

in that video clip they have show briefly chechens on the black and white screen at the end of the clip, I guess to explain who they were talking about.

 

[Cannonball888]

This is a clip made by an organization calling itself National Russian Liberation Movement. I suspect they are some kind of a nationalist group, but I have no idea of their politics or goals

in that video clip they have show briefly chechens on the black and white screen at the end of the clip

Good observation Worker. I originally thought this vid was about personal defense but now I see it is about the extermination of an ethnic group seen as insects by right-wing nationalists.

 

[Oleg Volk]

The ad has a definitely fascist flavor.

 

[230RN]

Ochin interestnoe.

How/where is the clip distributed?