Russian SKS california legal?

[jimbob1911]

I just had a quick question for any one who knows california's wacky laws and deals with C&R's. I am trying to sell a russian SKS to someone in california, it is dated before 1955, 54 to be exact. Does that make it legal as a c&r even though it has a detachable magazine and grenade launcher mount?

Anyone?

 

[gripper]

It may get on th ebanned list due to the bayonet....most of th eone sI have seen ( like my 1950 Tula dated laminate stock one ) have had th ebayonets riiiveted semit permanently :banghead:by whoever re-arsenaled them...on the other hand ;the C&R eligibility may trump the Cali-regs.Tough call ( at least for me)

 

[Aaryq]

PERFECTLY LEGAL!!

The bayonet is specifically mentioned as not an assault weapon feature. Get one...get one hundred if you can.

 

[Winston_Smith]

I beleive they are. I didnt see it on THE list.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/

 

[jimbob1911]

thanks for the help guys, i thought the same but just wanted some piece of mind.

 

[railroader]

Are you sure you have russian sks? The only sks I have seen with anything to do with launching grenades are yugo59/66s. The grenade launchers on 59/66s are considered destructive devices and are banned in california. Yugos are sold in california with muzzle brakes, the barrel cut or a sleeve welded over the grenade launcher. You also said your russian sks has a detachable mag. Sks's with detachable mags are considered assault rifles. If the mag is non detachable it must be ten rounds or less. The top pic is a russian the bottom one is a yugo.

 

[jimbob1911]

looks much more like the top pic...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=104899464

 

[railroader]

Sounds like you have russian. Mark

 

[Abndoc]

C&R's must still go through an FFL . Grenade launchers are forbidden, but I didn't see one in your pics. The magazine is hinged, not removable.

 

[Beetle Bailey]

Your link shows an SKS with a fixed magazine and no grenade launcher so it is fine in California. That magazine cannot be removed without tools so it is considered fixed. To my knowledge, only the Yuog M59/66 model SKS has a grenade launcher, as shown in the picture above posted by railroader. If your buyer has a C&R license, you can ship it to his/her door. If not, it must go to a Type 01 FFL.

 

[jimbob1911]

sounds good, thanks guys, I am not the most well versed in sks's, this one has never even been fired

 

[Abndoc]

C&R's must still go through an FFL

My bad. This is incorrect.

 

[whozzit]

Russian SKS

The '54 Russian SKS didn't come with a detachable magazine or a grenade launcher (or a bayonet). I'm afraid that the magazine and grenade launcher won't fit in CA. You've got an option though. Get the grenade launcher off of it and put the fixed magazine back on it and it's CA legal. Ten round fixed magazines are available all over the internet.

 

[whozzit]

Russian SKS

I take that back. My own Russian SKS (Tula-1951) does have (and they did come with) the bayonet. Mine is C&R, legal and was shipped to me as a C&R holder in CA this year. Your Russian SKS, to be "stock", should have the bayonet, a fixed 10 round magazine and no grenade launcher. If it's in that condition, it's CA C&R legal. Technically, even removing the bayonet takes the rifle to a point where the C&R status become questionable.

If you are a C7R holder, you can ship the Rifle to another C&R holder in another state as long as the rifle meets the C&R requirements of the state that you're sending it to. As I stated above, "stock" Russian SKS's, more than 50 years old, meet the CA C&R requirements.

 

[whozzit]

If you are a C7R holder

Pardon my above spelling mistake. I was going too fast... "C&R"

 

[Full Clip]

As I live in CA, I love all the misinformation and retractions. Why must people comment on things they know nothing about? It's okay not to know something. It's bad to spread rumor and innuendo.
Our gun laws are confusing and complex, So if you don't know what you're talking about, just refer people to http://www.calguns.net and they will get the help they need.

 

[whozzit]

CA and the SKS

CA is kind of arcaic on the SKS. What it boils down to is more than 50 years old and no grenade launcher (you've got to throw your grenades by hand). I don't believe that you'll find one with a removeable magazine unless it's been modified and CA doesn't like magazines that can be removed. I have had vendors ship me (CA 03) SKS's with the grenade launcher removed and an inch of threads exposed on the exterior of the end of the barrel. I don't think that CA likes exposed threads either so the exposed threads have been concealed with a spot welded muzzle brake. As a collector of anything, CA is a bad (the worst?) place to reside. Over the years I've been moving closer and closer to NV (Reno is now the next town to the east) and once the final move is made, a lot of this foolishness will no longer apply.

 

[Oohrah]

Not much of anything gets shipped to Kaalifornia ! The SKS used to
be a required registered assult weapon. Many did not do so before
the deadline. Amesty was supposed to have been granted, but those
who registered after the second period found that it had not been grant-
ed. Pretty sure the two choices were to mail them out of state or turn
them in. Understand that used handguns must be on an approved list
that it passed safety standards. With control on your ammo, enjoy
while you can the use of firearms. It appears Kalif. is fast tracking to
eliminate firearms Most catalogs that have firearms related stuff, also
carry a rider may not be sent to Kalif. I know of at least of firearms
manufacturer who will not ship or repair his product to Kalif. Not even
to LEOs. Sorry all, super reason to be FROM there !!!:banghead:

 

[ArmedBear]

SKS's are C&R if over 50 years old in CA, AFAIK. Not registered AW's or something, and bayonets are not an AW feature.

Grenade launchers, however, are "destructive devices". This only impacts 59/66 Yugos, AFAIK. Yugo 59's are fine, as are 59/66's with the grenade launcher disabled (usually by drilling holes in the thing to make it into a muzzle brake).

To the best of my knowledge, a Russian SKS from '54 is a C&R and is not an "assault weapon" or a "destructive device" in California.

I understand all the rants, but please understand that they don't help the OP at all. Maybe we should have a permanent California Rant thread so that the rants don't get in the way of information.

What I recommend to anyone with such questions is to go to http://www.calguns.net and ask there. You will get much better information there, and nobody using the thread as an excuse for emoticon-filled rants about California.

 

[Quiet]

The Russian SKS is CA legal.
As long as it's in it's stock form.

If your buyer has a C&R license, you can ship it to his/her door. If not, it must go to a Type 01 FFL.

What he said about shipping C&R firearms to CA.

 

[Limeyfellow]

The only SKS' with banned bayonets are the ones effected by the 89 import ban that requires the bayonet to be removed from China. Of course these stopped coming in altogether in 1993.

Russian SKS' are a completely separate creature are are legal with the bayonet.