S&W 52-2 semi-auto 38 Special ??? up for sale

Well, MY .38 wadcutter load development was 3.2 gr W231 because that was the powder I had and the bushing I had for the CH powder measure.

In general, just enough of a fast burning powder to get about 750 fps.

MY M52 needs a pretty good roll crimp for feeding. Nothing extreme, just about like a factory wadcutter.
The Internet Taper Crimp did not work At All.

No real change in the loading, I was already doing all of that for the Python I shot in PPC.
 
Well, MY .38 wadcutter load development was 3.2 gr W231 because that was the powder I had and the bushing I had for the CH powder measure.

In general, just enough of a fast burning powder to get about 750 fps.

MY M52 needs a pretty good roll crimp for feeding. Nothing extreme, just about like a factory wadcutter.
The Internet Taper Crimp did not work At All.

No real change in the loading, I was already doing all of that for the Python I shot in PPC.
I’m going to start with 3.2 HP-38 because it’s what I have. I’m actually going to trim the cases! Go Big Or Go Home! lol

Roll Crimp! CHECK
 
Here is your load development - 2.8gr of Bullseye or 2.7gr of Bullseye with a small crimp. Use the one that groups best. I flipped the plug in my seating die over so the flat side faced down.
I’m going to get some Bullseye! Once I get some more money, it’s on! Always wanted to try that powder!
 
Bullseye is dirty, eww.
But if a handgun has ever been loaded with smokeless, it has been loaded with Bullseye. Unlimited data.

Historical Trivia Alert:
The M52 (Also Gold Cup .38 and Clark Conversions) are meant for wadcutters only, but...
Maj. Geo. C. Nonte addressed the matter once. A contact had ONLY such a .38 wadcutter gun and wanted to know what he could do to soup it up for home defense.
Nonte suggested to load some of the old Service Wadcutters at 850 fps, same as "police special" 158 gr RN.
OR
Trim brass to a length that would allow seating and crimping a SWC or HP to fit the magazine.
 
Bullseye is dirty, eww.
But if a handgun has ever been loaded with smokeless, it has been loaded with Bullseye. Unlimited data.

Historical Trivia Alert:
The M52 (Also Gold Cup .38 and Clark Conversions) are meant for wadcutters only, but...
Maj. Geo. C. Nonte addressed the matter once. A contact had ONLY such a .38 wadcutter gun and wanted to know what he could do to soup it up for home defense.
Nonte suggested to load some of the old Service Wadcutters at 850 fps, same as "police special" 158 gr RN.
OR
Trim brass to a length that would allow seating and crimping a SWC or HP to fit the magazine.
I’m so going to trim down the brass to fit HP’s! that going to look amazing!

would be fun to carry that huge gun! Shots placement counts
 
Just make sure you seat the bullet flush with the case mouth. Even a small bit sticking out can jam up the magazine.
Follow me in the reloading section!

 
I have loaded a fair amount of wadcutter 38 ammo over the years and never knew it took a special expander die.
I haven't had to use a special die for my Model 52-2 either, though my reloads were configured using factory wadcutter brass. When I was a serious Bullseye competitor back in the early sixties and through most of the seventies, Bullseye (Precision Shooting) shooters still used revolvers, along with auto pistols, and none of the handguns wore any sort of optical sight. Most of the target guns "back in the day" were developed for Bullseye shooters and some of the finest American-made handguns ever made were built during that era, including Colt and Smith & Wesson Wesson revolvers chambered in .22rf, .38 Special and .45 ACP and autos made by Colt, High Standard, Ruger, Smith & Wesson and Browning. Browning, High Standard and Ruger autos were chambered only in .22 rf and only Colt made semi-auto pistols chambered in .45 ACP (which could be used in the "centerfire" stage of fire and most often were).

As time went on and the accuracy, trigger pulls, sights and reliability of auto pistols became much improved, revolvers started to become much less popular, mostly due to the inherent advantage the auto pistol held in the timed and rapid-fire stages of fire (revolvers were almost exclusively fired in the single-action mode during this period of time chiefly due to their exquisite sa trigger pulls).

Uniquely, the Smith Model 52, was intended for Bullseye competition for use only in the center-fire stage where the .38 Special cartridge could be employed. As previously mentioned, the pistol was provided with five round magazines and had to be used with wadcutter bullets seated flush to the mouth of the case The Model 52-A was made from 1961 to 1963; the Model 52-1 from 1963 to 1971 and the Model 52-2 from 1971 through 1993, after which time the model 52 pistol was discontinued. During this classic Bullseye era, Smith & Wesson never made a semi-auto pistol chambered in .45 ACP, though they did make the fine Model 1955 Target revolver chambered in .45 ACP.

In 1960, Colt introduced the National Match target pistol, chambered in .38 Special and, like the Smith Model 52, was furnished with five round magazines and designed to fire mid-range ammunition using wad-cutter type bullets. This pistol was discontinued in 1971.

Though I no longer am able to compete in pistol matches, the load I relied on for many years was 2.9 grains of Bullseye behind a 148 grain Speer HBWC bullet. Good luck with your Model 52. In factory form, the trigger pull is simply to die for.
 
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I haven't had to use a special die for my Model 52-2 either, though my reloads were configured using factory wadcutter brass. When I was a serious Bullseye competitor back in the early sixties and through most of the seventies, Bullseye (Precision Shooting) shooters still used revolvers, along with auto pistols, and none of the handguns wore any sort of optical sight. Most of the target guns "back in the day" were developed for Bullseye shooters and some of the finest American-made handguns ever made were built during that era, including Colt and Smith & Wesson Wesson revolvers chambered in .22rf, .38 Special and .45 ACP and autos made by Colt, High Standard, Ruger, Smith & Wesson and Browning. Browning, High Standard and Ruger autos were chambered only in .22 rf and only Colt made semi-auto pistols chambered in .45 ACP (which could be used in the "centerfire" stage of fire and most often were).

As time went on and the accuracy, trigger pulls, sights and reliability of auto pistols became much improved, revolvers started to become much less popular, mostly due to the inherent advantage the auto pistol held in the timed and rapid-fire stages of fire (revolvers were almost exclusively fired in the single-action mode during this period of time chiefly due to their exquisite sa trigger pulls).

Uniquely, the Smith Model 52, was intended for Bullseye competition for use only in the center-fire stage where the .38 Special cartridge could be employed. As previously mentioned, the pistol was provided with five round magazines and had to be used with wadcutter bullets seated flush to the mouth of the case The Model 52-A was made from 1961 to 1963; the Model 52-1 from 1963 to 1971 and the Model 52-2 from 1971 through 1993, after which time the model 52 pistol was discontinued. During this classic Bullseye era, Smith & Wesson never made a semi-auto pistol chambered in .45 ACP, though they did make the fine Model 1955 Target revolver chambered in .45 ACP.

In 1960, Colt introduced the National Match target pistol, chambered in .38 Special and, like the Smith Model 52, was furnished with five round magazines and designed to fire mid-range ammunition using wad-cutter type bullets. This pistol was discontinued in 1971.

Though I no longer am able to compete in pistol matches, the load I relied on for many years was 2.9 grains of Bullseye behind a 148 grain Speer HBWC bullet. Good luck with your Model 52. In factory form, the trigger pull is simply to die for.
thank you for the detailed write up, I really appreciate it. I’ll try to make you guys proud. Working on 1 ragged hole, standing! <<< at 15 yards to start. I have been watching videos on how to shoot precisely, and I think with 2-5 years of practice, I’ll get there; collecting and shooting is such a joy!!. Life gave me 2 young handsome wonderful boys at age 45. So I can only shoot 2-3 hours a week for now. I have been collecting all the good tools! 1982 Colt Gold Cup, now a S&W 52-2, Colt Officer Model Match, and 2 well used Colt Officer Target .22 & .38… These guns are AMAZING!

What’s more amazing is Wadcutter ammo!

again, range report soon. I’m doing 1.150 with 3.1g of HP-38, Berry Plated HBWC 148 (yes, the lead stuffs coming in) brass is original Mid-Range Western nickel.

I’m going to test if trimming to 1.150 groups any driffent from 1.150~1.155 untrimmed brass. 25 shot each with the Revolver & Semi.
 
A true Unicorn of the post WWII Smith autos is
the S&W Model 44 9mm single action pistol.
I believe the Standard S&W book says only
10 were made.

It bears a striking resemblance to the Model 52
and the well known Model 39. I think its barrel
bushing resembles the Model 52's.
 
Maj. Geo. C. Nonte addressed the matter once. A contact had ONLY such a .38 wadcutter gun and wanted to know what he could do to soup it up for home defense.
Nonte suggested to load some of the old Service Wadcutters at 850 fps, same as "police special" 158 gr RN.
I'd be hesitant to run the old girl too hard; 52s aren't meant for that.
Oddly, I've tried running what are nominally 'full charge' wadcutters in my 52, and they won't reliably cycle. These loads are 148 PWCs behind 3.5 grs of B'eye. I normally shoot them in snub guns, where they clock 728'sec in 2", and 785'sec in 3. I haven't clocked them in the 52, but they should get close to Jim's cited number, in the 52's longer barrel.
My guess, since the full wadcutters can't obdurate like the skirted ones, they don't generate the right recoil impulse to make my gun run.
Anyway, use something else for defense. The idea of pointing that target trigger at someone is also a bad idea.
Moon
ETA- if memory serves, I created a seating plug for the wadcutters by getting a bolt of the same thread as the seating plug, and rounding it to proper diameter with an 'Irish lathe'. (This last is putting the bolt in an electric drill, and pushing the spinning bolthead against a running bench grinder) The blunt bolthead seats the wadcutters flush.
M
 
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I'd be hesitant to run the old girl too hard; 52s aren't meant for that.
Oddly, I've tried running what are nominally 'full charge' wadcutters in my 52, and they won't reliably cycle. These loads are 148 PWCs behind 3.5 grs of B'eye. I normally shoot them in snub guns, where they clock 728'sec in 2", and 785'sec in 3. I haven't clocked them in the 52, but they should get close to Jim's cited number, in the 52's longer barrel.
My guess, since the full wadcutters can't obdurate like the skirted ones, they don't generate the right recoil impulse to make my gun run.
Anyway, use something else for defense. The idea of pointing that target trigger at someone is also a bad idea.
Moon
ETA- if memory serves, I created a seating plug for the wadcutters by getting a bolt of the same thread as the seating plug, and rounding it to proper diameter with an 'Irish lathe'. (This last is putting the bolt in an electric drill, and pushing the spinning bolthead against a running bench grinder) The blunt bolthead seats the wadcutters flush.
M
like the idea of a dedicated Wadcutter seating plug
 
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