Saiga-12 20-round Drum arrived. *pics* Yay!

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Wait...how is it that you've only got an 11" barrel on there?
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Just register on Form 1 with the BATFE include a $200 check and wait a couple months for the tax stamp to come back on the form. Then you can have a shotgun/rifle of any length you want...for now anyway.

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can you please send me a PM with how to get it all and how much $$$ with detail as to what you did I am very intrested in one

Thanks
Zach
 
can you please send me a PM with how to get it all and how much $$$ with detail as to what you did I am very intrested in one

Thanks
Zach
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It is pretty simple if you have Tromix Corp do the modification (just takes some waiting due to que times).

1) You can first check out Tromix Corp's online assortment of conversions here:

http://www.tromix.com

2) Then once you have chosen a custom gun (you can mix and match accordingly) you can either buy your own gun or see if Tony has one in stock that you can purchase from him.

Thats it...unless you want a seriously customized CLIII Short Barrel Shotgun. This is where it gets a little more involved and starts to get expensive due to the work on the gas ports, tax stamp, etc.

2.A.) For Short Barrel Shotguns I suggest you start by buying your own Saiga-12 from a dealer to avoid an additional 4+ months waiting peroid to transfer past the 9-10 months it will take anyway(Tromix Corp to submit form 1, Form transfer to your CLIII Dealer, and again another Form transfer to you). That's a lot of time (and potentially money in fees) that you can avoid by just submitting your own Form 1 and having it approved before sending it off to Tromix Corp.

3) Get yourself a revocable living trust (Willmaker software is great) OR just go the Form 1 route through your LEO office. Plenty of information here:
http://www.hkweaponsystems.com/cgi-bin/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=000087

4) Fill out the Form one (get signatures if you don't go with the Trust) and mail it in with your $200 check. You will have to wait a couple months for the Form 1 to clear the BATFE.

5) Once your Form 1 comes back with the green stamp send your Saiga-12 to Tromix Corp with payment. This can take a few months as he is very busy and backlogged but he delivers perfection. IMO it is worth the long wait to get one from Tromix but there are many others that do conversions I am just not as familiar with. You might want to test the waters but you get what you pay for in most cases.


---At this time I am not sure where to get HALO rails for the Saiga-12. I noticed that Tony has really scaled back his line-up of guns he offers. The rails were custom done by a one-man-shop and I know that Tony cannot get them in stock so he no longer readily offers them on his conversions :(

****If you cannot find the aftermarket HALO rails anywhere I would just suggest saving some $$$ and converting your Saiga to the mini 8" version with folding stock. As you can see on the website you can get it under $2K after the extra $200 tax stamp. The mini 8" Tromix Saigas are neat (not totally practical for everyone but definitely look fun to shoot). I might just go ahead and have one of those made next... we shall see how the funds go. ;)

Hope this helps!

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Oh, good to know, that being said, that thing would be devastating in any application it might be put in. 20 rounds of semi auto buck shot :eek:...look out!!
 
Oh, good to know, that being said, that thing would be devastating in any application it might be put in. 20 rounds of semi auto buck shot ...look out!!
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If I could get a CLIII Dlrs license (my county won't sign anything to do with CLIII) I would have Tony convert my Saiga to fully auto and called it a day! But even with Semi it does appear to be a pretty heavy-duty firearm and probably one of the most fun high round count guns to shoot.

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PS: Don't get bit by the custom-Saiga bug. It is contagious. ;)
 
Great a 20 round shotgun drum, anyone bother to price it out?

$230 seems a bit high to me!:cuss:
 
It's all a matter of perspective, Eric. There are people posting in this thread who make that an hour. (I'm certainly not one of them!)
 
There are people posting in this thread who make that an hour
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Hey I do to if a day is 10.3 hours of overtime! Where do I find a job paying that much.........well if I am a guy.
 
Great a 20 round shotgun drum, anyone bother to price it out?

$230 seems a bit high to me!
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It is high. I did not pay this much as I was on the pre-order list. Though when you price it out for around $200 (a small amount vs. the total amount of the gun) it doubles your capacity to that of a high volume shooter. That is very substantial in the venerable 12 gauge platform. Twice the trigger time before having to reload is quite a luxury.

But it is still pricey and definitely not a cheap little toy.

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the md arms drum is 230 if you pre ordered on this last go around. they are out as of now and will not start the 3rd batch until after the 2nd batch ships somewheres around Jan 1st. I am on the 2nd list for one. the Tromix shotgun is not something that you can just get on the list for. right now the wait is 18 months. that is right, 18 months for one to get to you. you can go to Red Jacket Firearms in La. they have the same rep as Tromix but the wait is much less. I have one there that should be done in and out in 2 months. I am not waiting ont the tax stamp though. by the way, the Tromix is nowhere's near 1k with this one's set up. You might try a little closer to 15-1700 if I am not mistaken. His work does not come cheap on these things. I do not think that would include the price of that Halo rail that he has on there. You can get on the Chaos rail waiting list. they will be a lot lighter than the Halo. RG
 
Yes, the MD20 is expensive. Pre-orders for first run were $165. Production runs are $230.

The Wraithmaker drum is $400. So the MD20 is a bargain when you consider that it works and is almost half price.
 
Woo hoo! Looks like you could make a living in the tree-trimming business with that. Or you know...Be the guy who turns bacon into bacon-bits.
 
Congratulations, Javelin, that's a sweet lookin' piece.
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Thanks!


And Astolite that is a sweet looking little shotty. Are you thinking of dropping a tax stamp and having that barrel chopped down?

:D
 
I am waiting on my drum and conversion to get done by Red Jacket. Tromix is backed up 18 months. Red Jacket is only and I say only 2 months.
 
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