Saiga 7.62: Group sizes??

[Remander]

I recently bought a Saiga 16" 7.62 X 39 and have been plinking with it a bit.

Just curious as to what group sizes you guys get with AK's or similar 7.62 guns at 100 yds.

Minute of grapefruit? basketball? other?

Thanks for any feedback.

 

[mrapathy2000]

saiga gets pretty good groups for stamped ak design. not as good as vepr but better than your ak clones & wanna be's.

check your chamber to see if it supports 7.62x39. some apparently dont support it as fully as they used to. leaves a noticeable buldge below the case neck on steel casings.

 

[DnPRK]

Expect ten round 100 yd groups of 8-10 inches in diameter when using milsurp ammo. Anyone who tells you that they get better isn't shooting an AK or AKM, or they're shooting at only 25 yards.

 

[RevDisk]

With a SAR-1, 9 or 10 inch groupings. Once in a blue moon, 7 or 8 inch groupings.

With a Sako Valmet Rk 95 with very nice ammo, 3 or 4 inch groupings at 100m. On full auto at 25m, I could put 30 rounds into an area the size of a coffee can. This is of course firing in bursts.

 

[TallPine]

Minute of Wobble

 

[nipprdog]

posted by mrapathy2000

check your chamber to see if it supports 7.62x39. some apparently dont support it as fully as they used to. leaves a noticeable buldge below the case neck on steel casings.

check igor's post in this thread;
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79244

apparently the bulge is supposed to be there.

 

[armoredman]

8-10 inches? Ouch. What about those cheap SKS rifles? I thought the 4 inches my Mosin M38 gives was kinda bad....

Hmm barrel length? M38 -517mm/20.35 inch AK 415mm/16.33 inch.
No wonder they say the SKS is more accurate, with a 20 inch bbl...

 

[Detachment Charlie]

On a good day, with no caffiene adding to the challenge, I get 6" - 8" groups from my 16" Saiga.
Funny thing, though...I think heat has a lot to do with group size. The first shot out of a cold barrel is scary accurate...way more than I have any right to expect for this Roooskie rifle.

 

[mrapathy2000]

the 308 and 223 saiga's are bit more accurate.