Saudi executioner's swords

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There's an interesting (?) article at MEMRI about one of Saudi Arabia's executioners, including details of his swords (execution is by beheading in that country). For the text of the interview, see here. For video of the interview, including a display of his swords, see here.

A few extracts:

Abdallah Al-Bishi: "I started to work in this field after the death of my father - about a week or 10 days after his death, in 1412 [1991-92]. I was surprised that the people who supervise this field summoned me, saying I had a mission. Allah be praised. Of course, I did not have swords or anything back then, but I used the swords of my father, may he rest in peace, and carried out the execution. My first mission was to execute three people."

Reporter: "Abu Bader's swords have cut off a hundred heads and more. His eldest son, Badr, is training in the same profession. He inherited this profession from his father, Sa'id Al-Bishi. He remembers how, when still a small boy, he accompanied him to the beheading of a criminal in Mecca. That sight, Abu Badr says, was the turning point in his life."

Abdallah Al-Bishi: "I was at school, and an execution was set for my father in Mecca. It was to take place in front of the King Abd Al-'Aziz Gate. Before all that happened at the Al-Haram Mosque, the executions were held there. We showed up. I was a little boy. The first thing that came to my mind when people talked about executions was the digestive system. I wanted to see it. At that time, we had an exam at school on the digestive system, and we had to explain about the digestive system and whatever... So I came along, and the moment my father executed the man, I ran to see the digestive system, but all I could see was the man's head flying, and where the neck used to be, there was a kind of well. It went down. That's it. I couldn't take it anymore. I woke up in the car on the way home. At night, I tried to go to sleep, but couldn't. I had nightmares, but only once. Then I got used to it, Allah be praised. "

Abdallah Al-Bishi [showing a sword]: "Let's start with 'the Sultan.' I began with this Sultan. This is the sword I used on my first day at work. This is an old sword. This is a 'Jowhar' sword. All my swords are 'Jowhar.' 'Jowhar' are the strongest swords used for beheadings. It is not affected by the number of people beheaded with it. It is made of strong iron, not the kind that breaks or anything.

[Shows another sword] "This sword is also a Jowhar. Every sword, of course, is different in its own way, and is suited for its task. We have a sword - this 'Qaridha,' to be precise - which is used for vertical strokes. This stroke is, of course, different from the horizontal one. The horizontal stroke goes like this [demonstrating]. These are different strokes."

First TV host: "Do you cut off hands, or do you just do beheadings?"

Abdallah Al-Bishi: "Yes, yes. I carry out the punishment of cutting off thieves' hands, as well as the cutting off of a hand and a leg on alternate sides, as is written in the Koran."

Second TV host: "Abdallah, when you carry out the punishment of cutting off limbs, do you anesthetize the condemned person, or is it done without anesthesia, like beheadings?"

Abdallah Al-Bishi: "With regard to the cutting off of a hand, or of both a hand and a leg, it is done with local anesthesia only."

Second TV host: "But the person who is being beheaded is definitely not anesthetized, right?"

Abdallah Al-Bishi: "No, he is not anesthetized at all."

First TV host: "When you behead more than three or four people at once, does it affect you? My second question is: Do you need a break between executions? Does it affect you or not?"

Abdallah Al-Bishi: "Allah be praised, there is nothing to it. Three, four, five, or six - there is nothing to it. It's entirely normal. An execution is an execution, and as long as the person stands straight... As long as the person stands straight, it makes our job much easier."

Second TV host: "Abdallah, we've heard that one day, you were executing several people, and the sword broke. Is that true? Tell us that story, please."

Abdallah Al-Bishi: "It was the handle that came off, not the blade."


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Nothing like getting medieval on somebody -

Every sword, of course, is different in its own way, and is suited for its task. We have a sword - this 'Qaridha,' to be precise - which is used for vertical strokes. This stroke is, of course, different from the horizontal one. The horizontal stroke goes like this [demonstrating]. These are different strokes."

Different strokes for different folks. :uhoh:
 
Insane?

Do you think building electric chairs, gas chambers or fatal IV systems are better then a simple swords.
I like the simplicity in the Saudi system.
 
well, beheading dosn't kill a person instantly, however, it probably dosn't hurt much.
 
Insane?

Insane is making laws against inanimate objects and freeing criminals!
I (at least) havent heard of recidivism in Saudi,or of drunks running down folks,
and getting Fined?
:scrutiny:
robert
 
1. Given that some of the controversial research into the lethal injection in recent years, and that it may well be a truly horrible and painful experience (it is thought by some that the stuff just stops the condemned from displaying signs of suffering), I don't see how beheading is any more cruel.

2. The female news presenter is hawt. :neener:

That is all.
 
Well, yeah. But he doesn't have Gene Wolfe as a swordsmith ;)

And I bet he doesn't have Latro's wristy follow-through either.

What gets me is how completely detached he is. "I've executed several of my friends." Doesn't seem to bother him a bit.

Well, in his line of work Dissociative Personality isn't a disorder. It's a job requirement.
 
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What gets me is how completely detached he is. "I've executed several of my friends." Doesn't seem to bother him a bit.

Well, in his line of work Dissociative Personality isn't a disorder. It's a job requirement.

I'm sure that you can find an equally well-adjusted (to their line of work) executioner in the U.S.A.
 
Very Interesting.
Seems like a much more sensible of doing things to me.

And I don't thing either him or his son will ever be out of work


2. The female news presenter is hawt.

So pleased I not the only one who thought that:evil:
 
2. The female news presenter is hawt.

I don't know what horisontal-axis wind turbines have to do with it but I would certainly buy her a drink...

miko
 
You know... one can take a certain amount of pride from doing a difficult job, and a job many would be unable to do, and doing it well.

Abdallah Al-Bishi said:
"With regard to the cutting off of a hand, or of both a hand and a leg, it is done with local anesthesia only."
Something tells me a shot of novacaine ain't gonna do much for that little sting.

Cromlech said:
The female news presenter is hawt.
Word.
 
I rather like the simple execution process. I am not much of a fan of decapitation though. If I could chose my method of execution it would be in front of a firing squad. Here in America it amazes me that we worry so much about the level of pain a convicted murderer may feel by lethal injection :confused: .
 
I've been saying the same thing for years.

People whine and complain on one hand about how much lethal injection/the electric chair cost the state and the taxpayers. People whine and complain on the other hand about how the condemned 'suffer'. (Gee, like the victims didn't?)

Seems to me both of these problems could be solved with simple ballistics. I mean, how much could five or six rounds of .50 BMG cost? The miltary expends hundreds of them to pick off one or two pissant Iraqi's or what have you, but what if the firing squad actually aimed? Seems pretty effective to me.

They'd even get to reuse the rifles.
 
I think the system is admirable. One visit to Abdallah and your problem is solved, no long term jail facilities, no parole boards, no repeat offenders. Also, the victim's family is allowed to be present. We need to adopt a similar system.
 
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