Found a package deal today putting both of these rifles at the exact same price including some kind of cheap scope (Simmons or Bushnell, I believe). Looking at them in .270 or 30-06. Which of these two would provide the best out of the box accuracy? Which would be lighter? The Savage does have the accu-trigger.
Savage 110 or Remington 700?
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Personal preference. Both have good reputations, but I like the Remington features much better than Savage. Especially on long actions. One of several features I don't care for on Savage rifles is the extreme distance between the front and rear receiver bridges. Makes it impossible for me to mount my prefered scope/mount combo on a Savage.
cyclopsshooter
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new? savage by a long sight.. even better, look for a nice older used 110 or 700
Freedom_fighter_in_IL
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Savage all he way. While Remington's quality has fallen below sub par, Savage has risen to a new high in quality, affordability, and accuracy to match or exceed all the other brands. You couldn't pay me to buy a new Remington these days. But a Savage on the other hand, I would jump on in a second.
Just my own opinion. Your mileage may vary.
Good luck with whichever you choose.
Just my own opinion. Your mileage may vary.
Good luck with whichever you choose.
+1 on the Savage. The lower priced Remington 700's are a little rough around the edges. If you were talking about a 700 CDL or one of the higher end Remingtons, I would probably go with that, but dollar for dollar you will get more rifle with Savage.
from my recent 3 purchases I wouldn't recommend Savage, they all were defective and none shot accurately, my newly purchased Remington on the other hand didn't score as bad, at my gun range I've seen people with new Remington 700 rifles produce better groups then Savage. Say I seen one guy with Savage 12 varmint in 22-250 holding 1 - 1.5 MOA and another guy with SPS varmint in 22-250 having 1/4 MOA. If you remember my latest purchase from Savage model 12 target LRP shot 1.5 MOA at best, such accuracy is good for hunting but wasn't target accuracy
Ive never had an issue with a savage rifle, ive also never HAD to do any work to them. My most recent 700 on the other hand, needed to have a number of little things done to make it shoot right (or even load rounds correctly). Both my savages and my remingtons tho will shoot under 1" so ive got no complaints there.
the major issue I encountered was heavy chatter in the bore on lands and valleys which contributed to heavy fouling and bad accuracy, also unconcentric chamber with the bore and heavy chatter in the chamber, then I had firing pin issue it was cratering and puncturing primers and slamfires. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=587789
I do not expect anything from them anymore, I let them fix my rifle, it took them 2 months and they screwed it, by sending me defective replacement. So they had their chance to prove their worthiness and they miserably failed it. The gunsmith tried his best, but everything has its limits. He actually talked to Savage on my behalf to explain issues he had to handle with their faulty product. Soon after Savage contacted me and offered new barrel replacement, but I refuse now sending my rifle back to do this exchange. I have custom barrel installed which I like to shoot and last time it took 2 months for them to get replacement back so I'm not sending them my rifle again.
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I recently purchased a Remington 700 SPS Tactical and it is a GREAT shooter.
I have a Savage 93FVSS and it is also a GREAT shooter as well.
I have a Savage 93FVSS and it is also a GREAT shooter as well.
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Remington for me. I've heard or the alleged quality issues on newer guns, but personally haven't seen it....About a year ago, I worked up a load for a buddy's 700 Walmart special in .270. Shooting Core-Lokt's it was only giving at best 1.5" groups. A little trial and error handloading got those groups down under 1/2". I thought the results were great for Remington's cheapest, bare-bones model.
Tim the student
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I have a couple Savages, and while they would be my first choice due to my experiences, I would consider a 700 as well.
I'd expect the Savage to be a great out of the box shooter, but it certainly seems like lots of guys have good experiences with 700s too.
From posts here on THR though, it seems like more people have issues with Remingtons, but you have to take that stuff with a grain of salt.
I'd expect the Savage to be a great out of the box shooter, but it certainly seems like lots of guys have good experiences with 700s too.
From posts here on THR though, it seems like more people have issues with Remingtons, but you have to take that stuff with a grain of salt.
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I <3 accutriggers
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I'll take a 700 all day long over the 110.
Savage 110 by far imo. If you are going to get a 700 an older used one is the only way to go imo.
That said, every 110 I've seen has shot under 1" groups at 100 yards with cheap factory ammo right out of the box, and the one I have shoots under .5" groups with handloads. It shoots .8" groups with Winchester Power Points and Federal Power Shoks.
I've had to deal with Savage customer service on a few ocasions, but not because of anything major. The first time I called to ask to purchase the tool to adjust the accu trigger. They asked for my address and told me it would be no charge. I got it very quickly. The second time I broke the plastic trigger guard. I called up again knowing that the rifle was out of warranty and I was the second owner. Once again they just sent me another one free of charge.
Then the only problem I've had that I feel like I didn't fully cause myself, I had the recoil pad rip after the rifle was out of warranty. It was the super soft one, and while it was me being a tad rough on it that caused it to rip, I still don't think it should have. Knowing it was out of warranty, I asked if there was anything they could do? Their answer, "sure send it in and we will fix or replace it." I had another one back in my hands very quickly this time too.
These rifles are very accurate, great quality, if you get the accu trigger have great triggers, and the company has great customer service. This just sold me.
On the other hand, for Remington while I haven't bought a 700 lately, every Remington I've had or that a friend in our hunting club has bought has had a problem with it out of the box. You call their customer service and their answer? It will be 2-4 months to fix it. Most of the time these guns have been purchased right before hunting season and we haven't had time to wait 2-4 months, not to mention they should have worked properly right out of the box.
That said, I am a fan of the older Remingtons, but I still much prefer the Savages over the 700's.
Something else to mention is that it's hard to judge how accurate they are off of guys at the range if you don't shoot it personally and the groups are poor. The reason I say this is I've run into a ton more shooters that shoot 2-3 MOA groups than I have ones that can shoot sub moa groups. So just because one guy is getting 1.5" groups from his Savage and another gets .5" groups from his Remington at the range, that doesn't mean that's all the Savage is able to do.
That said, every 110 I've seen has shot under 1" groups at 100 yards with cheap factory ammo right out of the box, and the one I have shoots under .5" groups with handloads. It shoots .8" groups with Winchester Power Points and Federal Power Shoks.
I've had to deal with Savage customer service on a few ocasions, but not because of anything major. The first time I called to ask to purchase the tool to adjust the accu trigger. They asked for my address and told me it would be no charge. I got it very quickly. The second time I broke the plastic trigger guard. I called up again knowing that the rifle was out of warranty and I was the second owner. Once again they just sent me another one free of charge.
Then the only problem I've had that I feel like I didn't fully cause myself, I had the recoil pad rip after the rifle was out of warranty. It was the super soft one, and while it was me being a tad rough on it that caused it to rip, I still don't think it should have. Knowing it was out of warranty, I asked if there was anything they could do? Their answer, "sure send it in and we will fix or replace it." I had another one back in my hands very quickly this time too.
These rifles are very accurate, great quality, if you get the accu trigger have great triggers, and the company has great customer service. This just sold me.
On the other hand, for Remington while I haven't bought a 700 lately, every Remington I've had or that a friend in our hunting club has bought has had a problem with it out of the box. You call their customer service and their answer? It will be 2-4 months to fix it. Most of the time these guns have been purchased right before hunting season and we haven't had time to wait 2-4 months, not to mention they should have worked properly right out of the box.
That said, I am a fan of the older Remingtons, but I still much prefer the Savages over the 700's.
Something else to mention is that it's hard to judge how accurate they are off of guys at the range if you don't shoot it personally and the groups are poor. The reason I say this is I've run into a ton more shooters that shoot 2-3 MOA groups than I have ones that can shoot sub moa groups. So just because one guy is getting 1.5" groups from his Savage and another gets .5" groups from his Remington at the range, that doesn't mean that's all the Savage is able to do.
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Aesthetically, the Remington, hands down.
From a shooting standpoint? Flip a coin.
From a shooting standpoint? Flip a coin.
First of all with Remington you do not send rifle back to the factory, they have authorized gunsmith repair through country and their CS will direct you to the one which will take less time to repair, so don't BS about 2-4 month because I bough Remington once months before regular season and I got it back right in time, Savage on the other hand repairs their firearms at the factory and it takes forever to get your rifle back, their CS will lie to you that you'll get it back within 2 weeks, I deal with them before and it wasn't pleasant experience.
Now accutriger some people like it, but I don't if you set it to its lowest setting it never fires, because it locks up while you squeezing its safety blade or it slamfires on close.
Also I had few 110 which shot more then 1.5 MOA, by the way if you get 1.5 MOA you should be happy because that's Savage accuracy guaranty, otherwise they will not repair your 110.
Now accutriger some people like it, but I don't if you set it to its lowest setting it never fires, because it locks up while you squeezing its safety blade or it slamfires on close.
Also I had few 110 which shot more then 1.5 MOA, by the way if you get 1.5 MOA you should be happy because that's Savage accuracy guaranty, otherwise they will not repair your 110.
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DIM, I really can't figure out what your personal problem with Savage is, but your blatant lies are getting a bit redundant. #1- Remington does NOT have you send anything to anyone other than THEM for warranty work. #2- Savage does SOMETIMES have a little bit slower turn around time during certain parts of the year due to heavy sales and such. But I have NEVER seen a rifle take more than 4 weeks turn around time from Savage. Only had to send one back myself but I have had a couple of friends send them in for improper drill and tap for the scope alignment. Something that is a VERY common thing with 99% of rifle makers. I have seen your other posts about Savage and I find them to be suspect at best. I personally have 26 Savage rifles and have only had to send one back. It had a slight feed problem and they fixed it within a week. Had it back in 9 days from sending it back to them.
As far as your complete BS statement of the accutrigger at it's lowest setting, I have 7 of them, set up for target, at their lowest setting andf I have had ZERO problems. I would have to say that the problem lies with you.
As far as your complete BS statement of the accutrigger at it's lowest setting, I have 7 of them, set up for target, at their lowest setting andf I have had ZERO problems. I would have to say that the problem lies with you.
Freedom_fighter_in_IL, lies about Savage which spread here, that's what ticks me off! I waited 2 month on my repair, then I got tired and they offered me replacement with different model and different caliber otherwise I had to wait another months or two, so that's my experience with their repair time, now what was #1 go and read it for yourself and might learn thing or two how repairs should be handled in the timed fashion, with online repair process tracking and 9 repair locations through US. http://www.remington.com/pages/support/repair-services.aspx
now think who is lying and why...
now think who is lying and why...
Hmmm... Lots of previous "name brand" BS on this thread... honestly NOT HIGH ROAD.
My suggestion is simple. Pick your price range and handle examples of both rifles within your budget. Then, make your own decision about which one feels better to YOU. There are a lot of opinions, and we all know the saying about opinions...
I have a definite preference between the two choices, based on owning several examples of each over 30 years... but the choice is yours to make.
edit... OK... based on reading this thread over again I will be less "PC" and throw in my vote for Savage... alas, it was not always so, but in the last 10 years I have seen Savage quality consistently improve just about proportionally to the quality that Remington has degraded, for what its worth...
My suggestion is simple. Pick your price range and handle examples of both rifles within your budget. Then, make your own decision about which one feels better to YOU. There are a lot of opinions, and we all know the saying about opinions...
I have a definite preference between the two choices, based on owning several examples of each over 30 years... but the choice is yours to make.
edit... OK... based on reading this thread over again I will be less "PC" and throw in my vote for Savage... alas, it was not always so, but in the last 10 years I have seen Savage quality consistently improve just about proportionally to the quality that Remington has degraded, for what its worth...
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