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Savage 22/410

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I owned an older model 20 ga/.22LR camper model which was a breakdown and came with a canvas carry case. I kept it for thirty years and didn't shoot it a dozen times. The concept seems like a good one, but the reality is that its a very specialized gun that is useful for the small game forager but a poor second choice for about anything else. Way back when, it was often kept as a barn gun and I can appreciate it in that role. The 410 model is even less useful. In my opinion it is a good rat gun, but that's about it. Your mileage may vary.
 
The Savage 24 in .22/.410 is a favorite of mine for teaching children to shoot. Simple, safe, not too loud, not punishing recoil. The .22 is accurate, reliable, safe, simple, and when paired with a single six a great teaching tool. Certainly a capable small game hunting tool, as young hunter I took game with it. If you don't see the point, that's fine, but just because I've never had a use for anything more powerful than a .308 doesn't mean the .300 Win Mag doesn't have its place.
 
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I have the original...Stevens 22/410 with tenite stock. When I was way younger it was my squirrel and rabbit gun. It gets out once in a while to take care of ground squirrels but little else. When I got married nearly 50 years ago I got a 24DL with 20 gauge on the bottom. Hunted everything with it.
I told the Savage rep at the deer classic a few years ago that I thought they had done a fine job of making a classic design about as ugly as they could. He agreed.
I'm sure it works fine but I'll stick to blue steel and walnut (or walnut colored Tenite).
 
Looks intressting if it was a 22/20 I would be a lot more intressted but I already own a light weight rossi matched pair in 22lr and 20 Guage that fills this role nicely even if I have to swap barrels to change game type
 
I want mine just a little different.

upper barrel chambered in .223 Remington
Lower barrel chambered in 20ga - 3 "
Compartment for misc storage in the butt stock
Compartment for a .223 Rem to .22 RF adapter that
comes with the gun in the forearm.
Cross pin take down

Retail no more than $300 to $350 (vs the $480 present)

Factory Model 42 E (enhanced) - screw in choke with modified and rifled tubes provided for $75 to $100 more
 
I could see the utility of having a Model 24 in .223/20 gauge. I think it would make for a decent set-up to keep in the trunk of my car.
 
Over the years I've had a .222/20 ga, 30-30/12 ga, and a .22 mag/20 ga. Traded them all - its still just a basic break open single shot rifle/shotgun combo. Handy but nothing remarkable.
 
I want to like the concept.... but I cant really find a use for one. I buy my guns to shoot, and do probably 99.99% of my shooting at a gun range. I cant see it being good enough at being a shotgun or a rifle that it would ever be a "go to" gun for me. Compromises must be made to make it both - specifically in sighting I think - if you put great rifle sights (or a scope), it might be a good .22 but wont "point" well like a shotgun should. If you make it a good, natural pointing shotgun, I think you would lose out on the precision required for good rifle sights.

Like someone said, maybe it has a place in the prepper camp. I dont fit there. But if I did, I still feel I'd be better server with a pump shotgun.

Just my opinions and why I'll probably never have much interest in them.
 
I can't see preppers wanting this in .410. Maybe .22lr/12ga or.223 over 12ga, with .22lr insert and shell adapters to shoot the smaller gauges.

I have handled a 22/20ga 24 and I do like the utility of it. Seems like a nice small game or truck gun.
 
I'm in the same boat, here. .410 isn't really powerful or available enough if you need a shotgun, IMO, and they could do with a wider range than .22lr by making it in .223 instead.

20 or 12 with a .223, toss in an adapter, and watch these things fly off the shelf. Every prepper with their head on straight would grab one, and so would half the general single-shot market.
 
I bought one of the .22mag/.410 versions last month when the local hardware store had them on sale for cost. Haven't shot it yet but I needed something for my youngest boy who isn't very big to start hunting with and this will serve for rabbits, squirrel, partridge, etc.

I have a 24J Deluxe .22lr/.410 that my dad gave me 40+ years ago and I hunted all kinds of small game and birds with that gun but it's too long and heavy for my boy. The 42 is short and light, points great, and seems like it'll be pretty darn handy. I'm thinking it'll also make a good kitchen door gun, there's always feral cats, foxes, and the like trying to get at the chickens, coons in the trash, rats trying to set up house in the garage where the feed is, etc.. The 42 seems like just the ticket to take care of those kinds of problems, probably make a great little camping gun to throw behind the truck seat, too.
 
They did make other combos including 222/20, 223/20, 357/20, 30-30/20 and some from Valmet in 12/rifle calls. I use my 222/20 for coyote maybe twice a year. Terrible trigger but after you learn to use it it will give you 1 1/2 MOA.
 
Got mine for around $300. My dealer wanted to wash his hands of it. I like it. The stock front sight is a little thick for shooting .22LR, but sufficient for .410. The extractor is plastic and essentially pointless. Never had an issue pulling brass or shells with my fingers.

I did not buy it as a serious, purpose-driven firearm. It's just fun to shoot. I mounted a 4x scope on it. Only shot it out to 35 yards, but .22 LR was plenty accurate enough. Never shot a .410 before this gun, but it was a blast.

If they ever made a .223/20 gauge, I'd probably buy that too.

Hope this answers original question. Oh, it does not takedown.
 
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The original Model 24, with the selector button on the side was a real PITA as the little arm was always breaking. The ones with the selector in the hammer were a lot better, but they were still rather poorly made and had extractor problems. And it was one of the guns Savage put a plastic stock on and those were complete disasters.

If they do it right this time, I think they will sell a fair number.

Jim
 
I have a Savage 223/12ga in my motor home. This is real useful for RVers with limited space A little too heavy for real bird hunting but as stand gun it is fine. Use it mostly for coyote and turkey with good results.
 
To answer the original posters actual questions,
Yes, I have one in .22LR/.410 bore.

Yes, I like it very much.

No, it is not designed to be taken down but it is quite compact and lighter than the earlier wood stock versions.

I had to deepen the rear sight notch to regulate the .22 barrel, it shot extremely high as received.
The .410 barrel shoots to point of aim/point of impact when the front sight is aligned level with the top of the rear sight blade.

The gun is acceptably accurate to 30 yards with both .22 and .410 slugs and this is about the maximum effective range of this weapon.

It comes with swivel attachment points but no included swivels.
Get a nice lightweight set of swivels and a nylon sling and you can find places to put the gun out of the way without the need to take it apart.

The .410 barrel shoots most every ammunition well including the Personal Defense stuff made for the .410/.45 Colt revolvers.
The open bore is NOT an impediment, the gun still patterns kill shot well out to that magis
g 30 yards using 3" ammunition or the PDL stuff.

Steel case and Bimetal case .410 IS NOT recommended for these guns.
While the patterns and power are quite good the cases have an annoying tendency to stick in the chamber after firing to the point of requiring a steel cleaning rod to punch them back out.

As for the rude and ever present comments on the price of the gun,
I bought mine for $425, they have since come down in price and can be found for $380-$400
A new in the box earlier savage .22/.410 top lever gun will realize an easy $700 on todays collector market and most of the early used guns selling for $400+ have issues for what you are paying.

All in all, if you like the concept, these are decent well made, well designed guns for the money spent. HTH

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It is a good youth gun. I have an original from the fifties and the new plastic one. This one is well made but not intended to break down without tools. The light weight is easy for a kid to carry and the 410 brings some extra confidence when squirel hunting. It is a good intermediate step up from a chipmunk/cricket 22 before moving to a semi auto 10/22. Kids with good training and supervision are still learning and are bound to make errors when excited. Single shots can reduce opportunities for mistakes and are my preference for young shooters. I like this one a lot. If you are looking for one that breaks down into something that fits in a pack, look at the chiappas.
 
When I was a kid it was a very practical choice,,,

When I was a kid it was a very practical choice,,,
I just wasn't smart/mature enough to know it.

That was when a kid could walk fields and hunt rabbits,,,
Without having the neighbors call for a SWAT team.

For my birthday Pop bought a used 22/410 for me back in 60-61,,,
I was a foolish kid back then and snubbed it,,,
I had asked for a new nylon 66.

All my friends had semi's of some ilk,,,
I felt decidedly under gunned.

But I do remember that gun being accurate as any of the rifles that my friends had,,,
And on occasion that shotgun was handy for squirrels/crows,,,
I gained a real appreciation for that combo gun.

I also learned that my friends ran out of ammo very quickly,,,
When we would go out rabbit hunting in the fields,,,
I was the only one who had ammo left over.

One weekend I went into my closet for it and it was gone from it's rack,,,
I asked Mom if she had seen my rifle around anywhere,,,
I thought Pop might have used it for something.

She said that Pop was miffed that I didn't like it very much,,,
So he sold it to a friend of his who did like it.

I tried to get her to go and get it back,,,
She just gave me the ungrateful brat speech.

I was an ungrateful brat back then,,,
But I never forgave him for selling my birthday gift.

Mine was the factory engraved model,,,
I sure wish I had that gun now.

Aarond

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I have an older Model 24S-E. 22lr and .410

Great for critters. Its a little slow on follow up shots with the 22 because you have to fumble with ammo. And its a little heavy. But its neat.

Having said that, I handled one of the new ones and was not impressed. Just too much plastic I guess.
 
I think it was about 1960 when I started hunting with my mod 24 .22/410. Notice I said started...because I still use it for rabbit.

The bunny gets a chance to run. I get one shot to stop him. If he gets away...well.

I love my little Savage o/u and wouldn't trade it for the "bestest newest" gun on the shelf.

The fact that my dad gave it to me...might...influence that decision a bit. :D

Mark
 
I purchased my first gun when I was 13---took a streetcar downtown & purchased a Savage Model 22/410--it was a great first gun ( dad was in WW1 & 2 & he hated guns--I typed a letter giving me permission to purchase)
I was hunting one day with my brother--he & OLD GRANDAD went into the woods with my
22/410--he came out with OLD GANDAD empty & NO 22/410---I was so mad & raised so much Cain that he gave me his brand new Marlin 39A--22 rifle
I still have the Marlin & I purchased a Savage Model 24V ( 22/410) just for memories.
I used it to teach my 3 kids how to shoot & also my grandkids.
I is a fun squirrel & plinker for a young kid
I will use it for my great grandkids ( now very young) if I am still around
 
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