No bias here dubblea, I have more Remingtons than do Savages, and can say without any reservations that in todays time, Savage is producing a much better rifle than Remington is. Not that I don't like, or have anything against Remington, I do not, but it is what it is.
0wn more Remington's that Savages myself, Savage produces better firearms than they used, they have finally caught up to the rest ( and so have their prices). I dont have anything against Savage, that's just the way I see it.
We set up rigs weekly for customers, one of my departments, so to say the least, I am spoiled in being able to shoot and evaluate all the different brands and configurations of todays production rifles. And for free, actually I am getting paid to do so
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Yes, been there and done that,I have done the same but had to quit due to my over spending, I actually paid them to work there.
I cringe to here the ol' brand bias statement as applied to myself because it just isn't like that, It does me no benefit at all to express my opinion, with the intent to persuade someone in the direction of a certain brand of rifle, if I were truly doing so.
Bias is showing preference over another
I have said it in the past...It makes absolutely no difference to me which brand of rifle anyone buys, I am not benefiting one bit from a sale of a Remington, Tikka, Weatherby, Savage or any other firearm. If John Doe wants brand X, then more power to him.
Agreed, I could care less what brand someone ends up buying as long as he/she is happy with their purchase. From experince in the firearms field, depending on your position, there are indeed benefits and perks that come with selling them, especially high volume sales.
But if your asking my opinion, I'll offer what I see, unbiased and the way it is.
Ditto here
If some have a Remingtons that out shoots a Savage, good for them, I do too, and would bet many folks do. I also have it the other way around, as many folks do!
BINGO, we have a winner here,my point exactly.
Nope, one is not head and shoulders over the other, it is heading that way, but it is not here yet.
Another BINGO!!! That's the point of my original post but folks seem to side one over the other, often times never ever having owned or dealt with the other make.
I own just about every brand rifle mainline produced today, and will say...If I were to buy a new rifle, and had to have accuracy to boot, I'd get a Savage, Tikka or high tier Remington.
Yes, I own a few myself. I would certainly not overlook a Savage, but there are many fish in the sea.
Don't want to throw the extra five hundred bucks for the upper class Remington, again, I would take the Savage home. The Tikkas are not my first choice, but the several I have all but one shoots MOA as long as we stay this side of 300y.
By all means, take home whatever you feel that would suit your needs.
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This comes from my SPS costing me about half of what the Savage ran me and the Remington shooting circles around the Savage right out of the box. It took a great deal of handloading to get the 10FP to shoot but it's finally up to the SPS's accuracy.
Well...I haven't heard this one yet. But if this happens, then, it is what it is and good for you. I wish I heard this more often, really... I do love Remingtons and hope the company turns around and starts building a quality firearm again.
You have never heard of a out of the box Remington shooting circles around a out of the box Savage? That's hard to believe in your 30 years of selling firearms, one would think you have heard a few stories. 
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, give me a second...if you want to have a great shooting rifle and have extra change to put into optics, Savage may be the route to take. 
Although, if you do not like their stock and you have to spend more money on a stock upgrade, you might be better off with the Remmy.
