Omaha-BeenGlockin
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Dang minimum wage Hospital Ninjas :banghead:
Scary moments at the hospital...
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Spiff,
Reading is fundamental, but comprehension is optional.
Reading is fundamental, but comprehension is optional.
Andrew Rothman
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And double thankfully, they don't employ metal detectors, and concealed means concealed!
I love people who do not live in real world! Think what you want, but driving with under the influence of ETOH or Narcotics ie Controlled Substances (Tylenol #3, Vicodin, Percocet, or Valium) is the against the law. Period end of subject. No debate read what th warning labels placed on the medicines! Preacherman could have taken a taxi if he was driving under the influence of ETOH or Narcotics. He has made no statement to deny or confirm he was driving that night under the influence of controlled substances.
Matt do try that at St. Cloud Hospital! They have two metal detectors in use!
I sure would not want to have myself or my family or my friends injured or killed by people who think they are above the law! Obviously many of you believe you are above the law! Good for you!
Matt do try that at St. Cloud Hospital! They have two metal detectors in use!
I sure would not want to have myself or my family or my friends injured or killed by people who think they are above the law! Obviously many of you believe you are above the law! Good for you!
Preacherman
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P0832177, you're becoming boring... may I suggest that you find something else to rant about?
P95Carry
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Peter - would you like to stick to your wall - or maybe make a change - and use mine!!
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Warbow
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Wow. Some people...
Anyway, I wish you a speedy recovery, Preacherman.
Anyway, I wish you a speedy recovery, Preacherman.
The Grand Inquisitor
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Preach -
I have to make this quick, and I'll fill in the gaps later, but I was in about the state you were in (after having an ileostomy surgury) and my mother and I were followed and nearly beaten by some scummy gang type prick after a "security" guard told us we had to walk around the building to get into the ER (late at night).
Mind you, this was in Chicago, so because there are no guns here, everything is totally safe.
I have to make this quick, and I'll fill in the gaps later, but I was in about the state you were in (after having an ileostomy surgury) and my mother and I were followed and nearly beaten by some scummy gang type prick after a "security" guard told us we had to walk around the building to get into the ER (late at night).
Mind you, this was in Chicago, so because there are no guns here, everything is totally safe.
Denver
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Preacherman, may God grant you full recovery!
(Confession: I struggle with the admonitions from Dale Carnegie to not Condemn, Complain or Criticize... PO832177, please just get some oxygen, Dude.)
Moderator, please forgive me and delete this post if I have stepped beyond the pale of THR charter!
'Most humbly, Denver.
(Confession: I struggle with the admonitions from Dale Carnegie to not Condemn, Complain or Criticize... PO832177, please just get some oxygen, Dude.)
Moderator, please forgive me and delete this post if I have stepped beyond the pale of THR charter!
'Most humbly, Denver.
MikeIsaj
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Wow! We're still talking about this? Let me jump in again.
Re: Calling an ambulance. Maybe in some areas the 911 dispatcher investigates the credibility of a call, in my county they do their jobs and dispatch appropriate resources to investigate the call. A call reporting gang activity at a hospital is going to get a police response, not a call to the triage nurse. That said, I'll re-consider calling for an ambulance because I hadn't thought about who was going to pay for it.
PO832177;
Driving under the influence; You made your point about DUI rather bluntly and repeatedly, and you are right if not overbearing. Games over, get off the field.
Triage Nurses; Regarding the assessment abilities of the average triage nurse, what do you think of making a possible perf colon, brought in by a CCRN with a history of acute diverticulitis and extreme abdominal pain sit in the lobby for two hours? I'm not impressed. I was so okay I had colon surgery 4 weeks later, 2 weeks ahead of schedule. Triage nurses are not all knowing and don't always get it right.
RileyMc;
Narcotics only impair you if you use them recreationaly? Where did you get that idea? I have a pharmacist, a nurse wife, several surgeons I know, and a bottle of percocet that will dispute that point.
Preacherman;
I hope you are recovering well. When faced with the need for colon surgery, my thought was thank God it's not a back problem. They can defy attempts to resolve them. Next time please call a friend or a taxi.
Re: Calling an ambulance. Maybe in some areas the 911 dispatcher investigates the credibility of a call, in my county they do their jobs and dispatch appropriate resources to investigate the call. A call reporting gang activity at a hospital is going to get a police response, not a call to the triage nurse. That said, I'll re-consider calling for an ambulance because I hadn't thought about who was going to pay for it.
PO832177;
Driving under the influence; You made your point about DUI rather bluntly and repeatedly, and you are right if not overbearing. Games over, get off the field.
Triage Nurses; Regarding the assessment abilities of the average triage nurse, what do you think of making a possible perf colon, brought in by a CCRN with a history of acute diverticulitis and extreme abdominal pain sit in the lobby for two hours? I'm not impressed. I was so okay I had colon surgery 4 weeks later, 2 weeks ahead of schedule. Triage nurses are not all knowing and don't always get it right.
RileyMc;
Narcotics only impair you if you use them recreationaly? Where did you get that idea? I have a pharmacist, a nurse wife, several surgeons I know, and a bottle of percocet that will dispute that point.
Preacherman;
I hope you are recovering well. When faced with the need for colon surgery, my thought was thank God it's not a back problem. They can defy attempts to resolve them. Next time please call a friend or a taxi.
Mike, excruciating, debilitating pain causes more 'impairment' than is caused by taking a narcotic to dull that pain. You need to consider things in context.
Where I live, a taxi takes at least 2-3 hours to arrive. Friends are not always available, but hindsight is always 20-20, isn't it?
svtruth
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In NY there is a patient ombudsman who is in charge of ensuring patient righte are respected, and numeous posters describing those rights.
On the triage issue a physician friend of mine did his residency at Bellevue in NYC. One night a guy came in and said "my back" The MD said " Yeah, yeah, sit over there, we'll get to you" . The guy turned around and there was a knife sticking out of his back.
In NY there is a patient ombudsman who is in charge of ensuring patient righte are respected, and numeous posters describing those rights.
On the triage issue a physician friend of mine did his residency at Bellevue in NYC. One night a guy came in and said "my back" The MD said " Yeah, yeah, sit over there, we'll get to you" . The guy turned around and there was a knife sticking out of his back.
MikeIsaj
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Whether you are impaired from pain or narcotics, you are still impaired. It is still irresponsible to drive while impaired. The mechanism of impairment is irrelevent.
If I say I need to go to the hospital, my friends will make themselves available. That's what true friends (not aquaintances) do for each other.
Again I'm not trying to beat up on anyone for making a common mistake. I'm trying to make a point that it was a mistake in the hopes that it won't be made again. There's no defense needed because no attack was made. My real concern is that with all the excuses being made the point will be missed and the mistake repeated. The first time, it's a mistake. The second time it's negligence.
If I say I need to go to the hospital, my friends will make themselves available. That's what true friends (not aquaintances) do for each other.
Again I'm not trying to beat up on anyone for making a common mistake. I'm trying to make a point that it was a mistake in the hopes that it won't be made again. There's no defense needed because no attack was made. My real concern is that with all the excuses being made the point will be missed and the mistake repeated. The first time, it's a mistake. The second time it's negligence.
Makes ya wonder why hospitals have parking lots
psssst despite the fact that Preach wasnt even on meds at the time i would like to remind our "health professionals" that not ALL pain meds impair one's ability to operate a motor vehicle.
MikeIsaj
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Sorry, I can't let it pass...
"...i would like to remind our "health professionals" that not ALL pain meds impair one's ability to operate a motor vehicle."
We weren't talking about pain meds in general, we were talking about narcotics, a specific class of pain meds which were identified by you as the subject in a previous post. And narcotics do impair, no matter the strength or amount of pain being adressed. The impairment will vary but will always follow narcotics use, no matter what the reason.
I am not a "healthcare professional" but I do have a brain and I can read and think. Just for you, I also have a friend who is a pharmacist that I have consulted on this issue. The chemist says you are wrong!
"...i would like to remind our "health professionals" that not ALL pain meds impair one's ability to operate a motor vehicle."
We weren't talking about pain meds in general, we were talking about narcotics, a specific class of pain meds which were identified by you as the subject in a previous post. And narcotics do impair, no matter the strength or amount of pain being adressed. The impairment will vary but will always follow narcotics use, no matter what the reason.
I am not a "healthcare professional" but I do have a brain and I can read and think. Just for you, I also have a friend who is a pharmacist that I have consulted on this issue. The chemist says you are wrong!
I wouldnt use the word "we" in that sentance since you appear to be the only one that is talking about narcotics in this thread.
in response to my asertian that "not ALL pain meds impair one's ability to operate a motor vehicle."
Fascinating, I don't think i would go to a pharmacist that told me i couldnt drive after taking aspirin.
mfree
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It's *moot*... preacherman was unmedicated!
I've never seen a bunch so vigorously whipping a dead horse...
I've never seen a bunch so vigorously whipping a dead horse...
spacemanspiff
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i think i saw it twitch. hang on, i'll get my kicking boots. 
Preach-
Have you considered a small auto or revolver in a pocket rig for your visits?
It doesn't require much range of motion to get into play from a pocket rig and would be pretty easy to conceal if you gotta drop your britches for the Doc etc.
I'm sure there are alot of really competent security folks out there but for the most part I always classified security guards in the witness category. I watched 2 older gents trade some pretty respectable blows at a Wal-Mart layaway counter awhile back. The young security guards response was to stand by with arms crossed and repeat " please stop this or I'm gonna have to call the police" and "the police are on the way" while mothers and children watched these 2 dudes paw at each other. I definitely would not put my personal safety in the hands of most security guards.
Have you considered a small auto or revolver in a pocket rig for your visits?
It doesn't require much range of motion to get into play from a pocket rig and would be pretty easy to conceal if you gotta drop your britches for the Doc etc.
I'm sure there are alot of really competent security folks out there but for the most part I always classified security guards in the witness category. I watched 2 older gents trade some pretty respectable blows at a Wal-Mart layaway counter awhile back. The young security guards response was to stand by with arms crossed and repeat " please stop this or I'm gonna have to call the police" and "the police are on the way" while mothers and children watched these 2 dudes paw at each other. I definitely would not put my personal safety in the hands of most security guards.
dangit yeager, I didn't think about that.
When I read "lawfully disarmed" I think of a state law saying you can't bring your arms into a hospital, not a hospital that doesn't want you on their property with weapons.
Funny sidenote. At the Troop Medical Center here on Cp. Casey Korea, theres a massive sign on the door saying "NO FIREARMS ALLOWED IN THIS BUILDING"
Here I was thinking I was a soldier too....
When I read "lawfully disarmed" I think of a state law saying you can't bring your arms into a hospital, not a hospital that doesn't want you on their property with weapons.
Funny sidenote. At the Troop Medical Center here on Cp. Casey Korea, theres a massive sign on the door saying "NO FIREARMS ALLOWED IN THIS BUILDING"
Here I was thinking I was a soldier too....
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