Scheuten Gun Works 22-30

[RubEric]

I have had this rifle since about 1970. Built on a M-1 carbine receiver and trigger, it uses a long stroke gas piston instead of the M-1 short stroke and inertia block. I did the final finishing and assembly. It shoots about fair - 1-3/4" with 40 grain projectiles.
Anyone else have one of these? I would like to correspond with you. Tnx Eric

 

[gotboostvr]

That's a new one on me. Neat carbine.

 

[tark]

Caliber?

 

[Dr T]

Is this a .22 Spitfire (also known in the U.S. as the 5.7mm Johnson, the Johnson MMJ 5.7mm Spitfire, and the .22 Johnson)?

 

[tark]

I kinda thought that was the caliber. That is an interesting rifle you have there. The cartridge spits out that 40 gr. bullet at close to 3000 FPS. Here is a bit of history.

 

[RubEric]

It is a .30 cal carbine case necked to .22. I don't know if it is identical to the 5.7 MMJ/spitfire but certainly very similar. The gun and the dies are labeled "SGW 22-30"

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Wow, neato!

 

[RainDodger]

Scheutzen Gun Works I believe... sounds like it is related to the same folks that eventually formed Olympic Arms. If you look at their (Olympic) history, prior to Olympic, Scheutzen (SGW) was known for making very high quality barrels. The early Olympic AR-15s were known as the "Stop sign" versions - there was a an octagon marking on the receivers. After that, they were marked SGW. I looked into this when I acquired an SGW AR-15 from the 70s. They guys at Olympic couldn't date it exactly, as there was a factory fire and they lost some of the 70s records. It's a milled billet receiver with integral carry handle, from the mid-70s. It shoots quite nicely. I wonder if that's who made your barrel, or whether SGW first came up with that necked down cartridge - I don't know the history the caliber. Interesting rifle. I'd think it should be a little more accurate than that, but like I said, I'm not familiar with the caliber.

 

[Dr T]

"The Handloader's Manual of Cartidge Conversions" 4th Ed. says on page 415 that the .22/30 Carbine is the same as the MMJ 5.7 Johnson. There is a little Wikipedia article on the cartridge and it's history at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Spitfire . The designer Melvin Johnson also designed the M1941 Johnson rifle (think smaller, lighter takedown rifle similar to the BAR).