Scout Rifle Stripper Clip Mod.

[AgentPickle]

Hope this is OK here. I modified my Ruger Gunsite Scout to feed stripper clips from the top end.

 

[Risky buisness]

Pretty nice. For some reason I always liked stripper clips and have several rifles set up for them.

 

[JumboJVT]

But why? With a DBM? And void the warranty on the rifle?

 

[mavracer]

But why? With a DBM? And void the warranty on the rifle?

Not for nothing but Ruger doesn't actually have a warranty and for most things as long as the modification doesn't cause the issue they'll still take care of you.

 

[chicharrones]

But why? With a DBM? . . .

Agree. But what the heck, it looks like it was well done.

The best part may be the video. It's short and to the point. No needless blathering whatsoever.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

As someone mentioned, why?

The RGS takes detachable box magazines. Stripper clips are for fixed magazines.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

I think I get it.
Easier/ lighter to carry extra ammo on strippers than spare mags- especially in a "scout" role where your primary role is observe and evade rather than engaging the enemy.
If you anticipate actually fighting anyone, you dont want to bring a bolt gun in the first place.

 

[mavracer]

As someone mentioned, why?

The RGS takes detachable box magazines. Stripper clips are for fixed magazines.

LOL like a SMLE or M1a/M14, one of the reasons for the scout scope mounting was to access the top of the action for loading/reloading and you call yourself
Jeff Cooper fan

 

[mongoslow]

Just no. I would rather carry 10 mags than do to my rifle what you did to that one

 

[35 Whelen]

Hope this is OK here. I modified my Ruger Gunsite Scout to feed stripper clips from the top end.

Very nice! But haven't you heard? Stripper clips are no longer en vogue. But I think it's a great idea to be able to load your magazine without removing it.

35W

 

[Pat Riot]

Nifty idea. No need to carry mags if there is no need for it or you need to conserve space, like on a hike or long day hunting.

 

[Varminterror]

If portage weight is a true concern in a civilian rifle, then a fat ass Ruger M77 action doesn’t make it to the table to be discussed. I love Rugers as much as anyone, but they’re hogs.

 

[Scout21]

As someone mentioned, why?

The RGS takes detachable box magazines. Stripper clips are for fixed magazines.

Looking at it from a purely practical standpoint it seems silly. With the exception of size and weight, I can't think of any reason to take clips over magazines.

On the other hand stripper clips are fun to use, and I'd love the option. It gives it that old school milsurp feel. I sometimes wish that commercial rifles came with them. I know the Model 70 did, but it was removed at some point long ago.

 

[Pat Riot]

If portage weight is a true concern in a civilian rifle, then a fat ass Ruger M77 action doesn’t make it to the table to be discussed. I love Rugers as much as anyone, but they’re hogs.

True, but then it is a “Scout Rifle”. Supposedly the one rifle that a person would use for a variety of things.

Cooper’s description from his book “The Art of the Rifle” page 18 (taken from Wikipedia)
"The general-purpose rifle will do equally well for all but specialized hunting, as well as for fighting; thus it must be powerful enough to kill any living target of reasonable size. If you insist upon a definition of 'reasonable size', let us introduce an arbitrary mass figure of about 1,000 lb (454 kg)."

If you’re hauling a heavy rifle other weight savings matter, in my opinion.

 

[mcb]

I can appreciate a shooter willing to modify their gun to fit their needs. Nicely done mod.

 

[gralewaj]

Years ago when I was looking into these scout style rifles, I could swear I saw a stripper clip guide that used the rear scope ring mounting holes to secure it to the receiver. My memory is it was a Burris product, but I'm not finding anything similar to that with a quick Gooble search. After watching the video and seeing one would need to mill the receiver, I don't understand how this product would work, unless Ruger redesigned the GunSite receiver to have a shorter opening than older M77 receivers?

I did end up with a nice target gray Ruger Frontier rifle in .358 Win that wears a Burris 2.75x Scout scope, and even found a way to modify an M14/M1A 10 round mag and fit it into the fixed mag box area... to supposedly be able to use stripper clips. It looked interesting, didn't feed .358 Win very well at all. I never modified the mag follower and the .358 bullets wanted to angle to the side all the time, especially the last 2 rounds.

Nice machine work on the GunSite rifle OP

 

[Crosshair]

Years ago when I was looking into these scout style rifles, I could swear I saw a stripper clip guide that used the rear scope ring mounting holes to secure it to the receiver.

Are you thinking about the stripper clip guides for the Mini-14?

 

[35 Whelen]

Years ago when I was looking into these scout style rifles, I could swear I saw a stripper clip guide that used the rear scope ring mounting holes to secure it to the receiver.
Nice machine work on the GunSite rifle OP

You did. The first time I dabbled in High Power competition I shot with a fellow who had one on either a Model 70 or a Model 700, but I can't remember who made it. I made my own out of a Weaver scope base. I'll do some research.

35W

 

[35 Whelen]

@gralewaj this is the only thing I could find. Maybe the address will help...?



I believe the guy who made them was Moe Defina.

35W

 

[Gordon]

You did. The first time I dabbled in High Power competition I shot with a fellow who had one on either a Model 70 or a Model 700, but I can't remember who made it. I made my own out of a Weaver scope base. I'll do some research.

35W

it was probably one on a Winchester Model 70 which were very much used for Hipower matches , back in the day. I HAVE a Model 70 pre 64 stripper clip guide that works for the .473" (30-06 , .308 ect.) case head with GI stripper clips and I think mounts on the two receiver ring scope screw holes . It has some value so I won't give it away but would part with it very reasonably for somebody who wants it, it is as new in a bag with screws.

 

[NuclearMeltdown]

If you wanted to go old-fashioned for high-power, what if there was a combination rear peep sight (like a WGRS) with integrated clip guide on the front? That way they don't block each other if you want a rear aperture sight while having a simultaneous retro-fitted clip guide?

 

[DukeConnor]

Stripper clips make me bleed

 

[wesmonster]

I like strippers and run them in my SKS and sometimes my VZ58.
Handy when benchtop shooting, I have some 10 round VZ mags but find it easier to reload from the top.
Been tempted to pull the red dot & rail off my Mini-14 and add the stripper guide but that'd also require replacing the factory rear sight with something that actually works, the adjustment on the rear factory sight is pitiful. Or add an Ultimak rail and move my red dot forward.
I don't live in a ban state, but if you prefer or have to run 10 round mags, then strippers make more sense.
But I've also tried a scout scope and choices are far more limited, and as your eye relief goes up, they get harder to use as field of vision is far more restricted, so a good cheek weld becomes more important. I found it took a lot longer to get a sight picture vs a std. scope.

 

[Archie]

Being of age to remember when, by whom and for what the 'scout' rifle was developed, some of the above answers are extraneous to the point of silly.
Most of the silly is influenced by the 'modern' concept of scout rifle; really cool and I'll be first on my block.

Consider: The Scout rifle as envisioned by the late Jeff Cooper was never intended as a main battle rifle. A 'scout' in military terms was to see, not be seen; a tactical 'spy', a gatherer of information for use by the officer facing a conflict.
NOT to intentionally engage in combat. Consequently the idea of having a sufficient fancy full of magazines is irrelevant to the point of silly.
Consider: The whole idea of mounting the scope FORWARD of the receiver was to allow a better, wider and less obstructed view of terrain (and potential villains, either belligerent soldiers or garden variety evildoers) AND allow use of charger clips to reload.
Consider: The scout rifle was conceptually a bolt action rifle. This was to encourage, if needed, the fewest and most accurate shots fired.
Consider: The scout rifle was lightweight, for ease of movement over potentially strange terrain.

However, the term 'scout rifle' has taken on rather dramatically changed qualities and purposes. Mostly by those ignorant of the basis.

Frankly, I should think a Spanish 7x57mm carbine with appropriate small magnification, forward mounted scope would be perfect. But it wouldn't easily pass the cool test.

 

[35 Whelen]

Being of age to remember when, by whom and for what the 'scout' rifle was developed, some of the above answers are extraneous to the point of silly.
Most of the silly is influenced by the 'modern' concept of scout rifle; really cool and I'll be first on my block.

Consider: The Scout rifle as envisioned by the late Jeff Cooper was never intended as a main battle rifle. A 'scout' in military terms was to see, not be seen; a tactical 'spy', a gatherer of information for use by the officer facing a conflict.
NOT to intentionally engage in combat. Consequently the idea of having a sufficient fancy full of magazines is irrelevant to the point of silly.
Consider: The whole idea of mounting the scope FORWARD of the receiver was to allow a better, wider and less obstructed view of terrain (and potential villains, either belligerent soldiers or garden variety evildoers) AND allow use of charger clips to reload.
Consider: The scout rifle was conceptually a bolt action rifle. This was to encourage, if needed, the fewest and most accurate shots fired.
Consider: The scout rifle was lightweight, for ease of movement over potentially strange terrain.

However, the term 'scout rifle' has taken on rather dramatically changed qualities and purposes. Mostly by those ignorant of the basis.

Frankly, I should think a Spanish 7x57mm carbine with appropriate small magnification, forward mounted scope would be perfect. But it wouldn't easily pass the cool test.

Very, VERY good post. Thank you!!

35W