Securing a handgun in a car?

[doc540]

I've seen the lock box and cable, the Fobus system, and the Grassburr.com systems.

What else is out there for secure concealment of a handgun but still allow access in a car (not a truck)?

(note: this isn't the tread to discuss whether or not TO carry a gun in a car, but HOW to carry a gun in a car)

 

[outerlimit]

I'd also be interesting in knowing about more secure car storage solutions, I'm in the same boat. At least ones that are good enough to deter smash and grab thieves (which are the majority), not the determined ones of course.

 

[doc540]

"At least ones that are good enough to deter smash and grab thieves (which are the majority), not the determined ones of course."

Yep, having it out of line-of-sight but accessible is what I'm working on.

(check out that grassburr.com system)

 

[ScareyH22A]

I'm sure that your state law is more lenient but in California, an unloaded firearm may be carried in a locked container, whereas the trunk of the vehicle is considered to be a locked container. But may not be carried in the glove box, center console, or utility compartment. Let alone loaded. Sheesh.

 

[doc540]

"(note: this isn't the tread to discuss whether or not TO carry a gun in a car, but HOW to carry a gun in a car)"

Apart from legal issues, what's a creative way to carry a handgun in a secure, concealed, and accessible manner?

 

[Snowdog]

hidden in plain sight while accessible is the way to go in my opinion. An object normally found in a car/truck that isn't normally used to house a firearm would be ideal in case your vehicle is broken into.

 

[MkgReloader]

I always worried about someone stealing it, so I never left a handgun in the car. On Saturday I came across a very slightly used Rossi 357 mag with a 2" barrel for $169. Bought it, shot about 100 rounds through it, cleaned it, loaded it with Glaser Safety Slugs, and it now resides on the side of my front seat console in a pocket holster I secured with double faced tape. I place one of my hats over the exposed butt so you can't see it from outside the car. I figure for $169 I'm not out a lot if the car is broken into.

 

[ScareyH22A]

See, people's mentality towards theft of their firearm is so backasswards. I wouldn't be worried about someone stealing an expensive piece as much as that firearm could now be used to commit a crime with devastating effect. As I work in the automotive security industry, I see cars being broken into on a daily basis. Please don't leave your firearm unsecured and unattended in the vehicle. If you leave your car, lock it up securely or take it with you. Your complacently can very well get someone else killed.

 

[ScareyH22A]

Apart from legal issues, what's a creative way to carry a handgun is a secure, concealed, and accessible manner.

I suggest a paddle holster between your seat and center console if you have the room. Get a left handed one and screw the paddle to the center console. Out of site but not secure. I can't imagine how you'd make it theft resistant, unless that's not your goal, without locking it up, which definitely hinders accessibility in a situation.

 

[outerlimit]

See, people's mentality towards theft of their firearm is so backasswards. I wouldn't be worried about someone stealing an expensive piece as much as that firearm could now be used to commit a crime with devastating effect. As I work in the automotive security industry, I see cars being broken into on a daily basis. Please don't leave your firearm unsecured and unattended in the vehicle. If you leave your car, lock it up securely or take it with you. Your complacently can very well get someone else killed.

No, the gun owner won't get somebody killed. The gun won't kill somebody either. The person wielding the gun stolen out of a locked vehicle will..

Guns don't kill people.. people. never mind it's useless with some.

Let's stay on topic!

 

[ScareyH22A]

I think I'm very well on topic and you're the one going off on a tangent about how guns don't kill, people kill people nonsense.

Like I said, cars get broken into quite often and if you leave a firearm unsecured and unattended in your vehicle and they steal it, I would consider you a damn fool.

 

[blkbrd666]

Damn fool that I am, I use a Cordura holster with a piece of Velcro hooks sewn on and shove it between the center console and passenger seat. I hang a baseball cap over it for consealment.

If it makes you feel better, you can hang a note from the grip that says, "I am watching my car and I still have my carry piece on me. Back away slowly with your hands in the air and I won't shoot".

 

[doc540]

"Like I said, cars get broken into quite often and if you leave a firearm unsecured and unattended in your vehicle and they steal it, I would consider you a damn fool."

How about you start your own thread about the pro's and con's of having a handgun in your car?

This thread, as I've repeatedly and politely pointed out is for those who have chosen to have a handgun in their cars.

What part of "secure" and "concealed" did you not understand?

If you don't think a handgun can be securely concealed in a car, so be it.

This thread is for a different discussion.

Thanks for your consideration.

 

[ScareyH22A]

I don't understand how you can secure and conceal a firearm within easy reach and insusceptible to theft. Please enlighten me.

 

[outerlimit]

I think I'm very well on topic and you're the one going off on a tangent about how guns don't kill, people kill people nonsense.

Like I said, cars get broken into quite often and if you leave a firearm unsecured and unattended in your vehicle and they steal it, I would consider you a damn fool.

The OP tried very hard to ask people with comments like yours to keep from posting in the thread. KEEP IT ON TOPIC

 

[outerlimit]

I don't understand how you can secure and conceal a firearm within easy reach and insusceptible to theft. Please enlighten me.

Please keep it on topic. I'm very interested in hearing reponses to the OP's question, not your questions or observations.

 

[ScareyH22A]

It's totally on topic and as even his thread title shows... he wants to "secure" it into the vehicle. Maybe he should've used the term, fasten, or mount, but apparently, securing it wasn't actually his intention until he changed his mind on post #13.

Whatever, ya'll are intelligent men and I'm sure you will keep your firearms secure. Because you probably have safes in your home, I couldn't possibly imagine that you wouldn't practice due diligence in your vehicle as well. Anyways, sorry if you feel that I'm off topic but for the little I contributed, I put in my suggestion on post #9.

 

[outerlimit]

So do you have any suggestions for securing a gun in a vehicle?

 

[CWL]

If you are serious, then I suggest using a bolt-down gun safe. When entering the car, open the door to make the gun accessible, when leaving the car, close that sucker up.

One that fits under the seat seems the most accessible and secure from casual thieves.

 

[doc540]

Sure, "secure" is a relative term, but common sense dictates that "securing" a gun in a car is, fundamentally, concealing it.

So, that's one aspect germane to this thread.

Some methods conceal better than others.

Secondly, as I posted in my original comments, the lock box and stainless cable is another one method of securing a gun.

Thirdly, "securing" can mean "secure from dislodging during an accident".

There's three right there for ya.

And, if you want to get technically smart-assed about things, one could always torch the floorpan and install a pistol safe like Junior Johnson making a midnight run in his '40 Ford.

So, again, what are some creative ideas for securing, concealing, and accessing a pistol in a car?

 

[ColdCoffeeMug]

I don't know what kind of vehicle you drive, but my truck has large map pockets in the door and I've fastened a holster into the pocket that I transfer my carry weapon into when I enter the vehicle. If I encounter a situation where for any reason I have to leave my weapon in my vehicle, I keep a lifejacket gun lock under the front seat and secure it in there and under my seat until I return.

 

[X-Rap]

Try a short section of hardend chain run around the seat frame and a good lock around the topstrap or through the magwell and slide. ( a long shank on the later)

 

[edrice]

I had a vehicle that was broken into and burglarized that had a handgun secured and concealed. I still have that handgun today, so it can be done even though some here apparently do not have the imgination or creativity to do it and don't think it can be done.

But it depends entirely on the vehicle. In two of them, back when there were speakers mounted in each end of the dash board, there was a speaker grill that could be unfastened from the rear, inside the dash, and then the grill could be popped out and popped back into place. If I placed a firearm inside where the speaker used to be and put the grill back on, there would not be the first clue to its presence. All I had to do was reach under the dash with my left hand, pop the grill out and then quickly reach around the front into the speaker hole and retrieve the gun. It could be done in half a second.

I had a pickup once where there was a spot right behind the drivers seat next to the door that I could just slide a Browning High Power into. The butt would actually stick out a smidgeon, but the color of the High Power and the mechanics of the seat disguised or camoflaged to the point that you couldn't tell it was actually a gun. I several people look for it and couldn't find it, so it was clearly hidden in plain sight.

All I had to do was reach down with my left hand while driving and grab the butt with my thumb and index finger and pull it out. It could be retrieved in less than a second. You need to take some time and look hard at your car for the possibilities

Ed