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He claims to 16, COPPA doesn't apply. Where is this alledged COPPA violation?
. . . and I can claim anything I want, as well.

I was trying to allude to the fact that he carries on like he's not 13 years of age at this time ( kids DO like to pass themselves off as "older than they really are", you know ).

You know, rather than say: "Hey kid, does your 6th grade teacher know you're cutting class today?"
 
Alrightly, I see where you are coming from. The problem with that is that the child wouldn't be committing a COPPA violation. It's the website operator. Claiming there is a COPPA violation certainly seems to indicate one thought THR was violating the act. There are plenty of adults here and on other forums that have both the same communication structure and attitude, so statistically, I wouldn't say he is any less likely to be 16 than 14 or 22. :)

On the other hand, I'd much rather have the teenage kids who type like idiots than the ones who can form coherent sentences but then proceed to dole out advice to about firearms they've never seen in real life, let alone shot. The former are easy to filter out. The latter aren't.
 
IBTL, Springfield, means "in before the lock". Usually said when it's assumed the thread will be locked shortly.

Why lock it? Well, when a previously unknown individual comes on the board and starts asking for suggestions on how to violate Federal law, we get a tad antsy. Such a person could in fact just be a young man who doesn't know the law and thought it would be a fun thing to have a full auto gun (and it would. I think all of us would agree with you on that. :)) But never, never never get on the internet and say "you know, without all the legal stuff", which is the same as saying "I want one but I don't care about the law."

That gets threads locked.

We're about responsible firearms ownership, and responsibility includes obeying the law. I don't doubt that you haven't had the opportunity to learn about this yet. But there it is, and any suggestion that we might be right in there with you to do what you want would make US guilty of assisting you. Which we're not willing to be. Hence, the likelihood of a lock.

If you're really who and what you say, stick around and learn for awhile around here. Read a lot, post little, and you'll get a great education in firearms.

But ix-nay on the full auto-ay, all right? You don't want to go to Club Fed and neither do we.

Springmom
 
wat does it mean when somebody says ibtl and why wold this thread get locked

IBTL = "In before the lock"

A moderator might lock this thread, which means that nobody could comment on your question anymore. They might do this because you were adamantly asking for information on how to commit a felony which is not something that this website tolerates.

I'd suggest doing yourself and your country a favor by joining the army in a couple years. You'll get to have a blast shooting machine guns while getting paid.

I'd also suggest reviewing basic english concepts such as punctuation and sentence structure.

Stay out of trouble and feel welcome here as long as your inquiries aren't pertaining to committing felonies.
 
Springmom,

I like the way you put that.

Concise, to the point. The way it should be. :)

As for the original poster, I kind of have to wonder about him/her/it.

I also STRONGLY agree with the others, if you want to shoot full auto, three shot bursts, or anything like that, join the army (when of legal age, of course).
 
I came to THR because I was under the assumption that there was a relative farce of condescension.
Clearly, I was wrong.
Way to go, guys--you were given an opportunity to turn a young shooter in the right direction, and instead you needless insult and demean him. Way to go.

Springfield--simply said, DO NOT DO IT. I'm sure there are places to get them done in big cities and such, but make no mistake, these are HIGHLY illegal. Often on both the state and federal level.
The NFA GREATLY restricts the posession and transfer of full-auto weapons. What's more, the FOPA made it impossible for civilians to own machineguns made after 1986. So, if you want a full auto gun, you better put together a couple thou'.

Anyway, I hate to break it to you buddy, but be prepared for a lot more arrogance headed towards you. I started to post in firearms forums at the age of fifteen, and I'll be honest--the amount of condescending posts I got in response to my simple, wide-eyed questions was high.

Feel free to ask me about anything. I don't believe that there are stupid questions, and if it means saving a decent boy a Helluva lot of legal trouble while maintaining his interest in safe, responsible, legal weapons use, let me know through PM.
 
Jackdanson:

I'm assuming you mean the disconnecter, and that will only lead to a 3 round burst followed by a soft tap not to mention jail if your caught. Not that I know from studying it's function or anything.:uhoh:

SpringField:

crumy times when I freeman can't practice a right without worrying about ending up in the can or paying 20 times more dough for a 600.00 piece of metal. If you want Full Auto your going to need to catch up on NFA regulations and start saving some money.
 
relative farce of condescension.

Farce?

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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


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Maybe the guy wants to burn firewood in his pickup truck instead of gasoline.:confused:
 
Way to go, guys--you were given an opportunity to turn a young shooter in the right direction, and instead you needless insult and demean him. Way to go.

Well, some of us tried to be nice and educate the guy as this went along, but when you get posts like

under the table conversion

nice is out the window. That's clearly someone that knows they are talking about a very big no no and they continue on ahead.

Hard to stay on the nice track at that point you have to admit.
 
Yeah, but you don't need to be "nice" to take The High Road. Just not arrogant, insulting and condescending.
 
You don't know where I could find a Walther MPL do you?

Unfortunately, no. I'm pretty sure at least a couple made it in before GCA'68, but it would be a real rarity. In 15 years of collecting MGs and following the market pretty closely, I can't remember ever hearing of a transferable MPL for sale (Even something like a transferable Beretta 93R would be easier to find). Another problem with the MPL/K is the mags - same double stack/double feed position mags as a PS MAC-10 in 9mm which run about $100-125 each.
 
In 15 years of collecting MGs and following the market pretty closely, I can't remember ever hearing of a transferable MPL for sale

Well, it's a long sad story but there were a few, I owned one for a while, along with about a dozen mags.

I was under 21 before the May 86 debacle and a dealer buddy of mine had a BAR and an MPL. After some serious begging, bargaining etc I convinced my dad to buy them through his company.

My devious plan was that when I turned 21 I'd simply transfer them over to me.

Now, my dad doesn't know which end of a gun the bullets leave, but he does know about money. Somewhere along the way he figured out this stuff was worth a lot more than he paid, post 86.

I managed to get the BAR from him but he sold the MPL out from under me and I've been looking for one ever since. It's my Holy Grail firearm wise.

Here's a photo of me shooting it, very many years and very many pounds ago LOL. I think I was 17 if I remember........

This is why I can understand a 16 year old wanting a machine gun :)

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Springfield: O.K. Let's try it this way to attempt to calm this post down a bit.

As Springmom so adroitly pointed out....THR is probably the most conservative, responsible and well educated group of gun fans on the internet today. When you posted, and then continued to post, questions about felony activities you just simply scared the crap out of all of us. If it was an innocent faux pas, O.K.. Rethink your posting style, read the others posts, observe the tone and tenor of the forum. There is so much knowledge here that you can pick up and through that become a very responsible, and knowledgeable man in the wonderful world of guns and all the great fun that goes with them.

Like all wonderful things in life, there are responsiblities and expectations that are attached. Gun use and ownership is one of the most contraversial. Folks here take great pains to maintain conduct, activities and demeanor that portrays us as what we are. The best of the best of gun ownership. Please don't destroy that. If you are trolling, please go elsewhere. This is our home. It's clean, legal, responsible and respectful.

All that stuff being said, I'll be the first to welcome you to THR. Learn Grasshopper, Learn.
 
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