Self-Defense Ammo for Glock 42

+1. For wife's Taurus 738 TCP, Winchester PDX-1 Defender fed reliably.

And I believe it's similar thick plated construction as Speer Gold Dot HP so no concern for jacket separation (I like Gold Dot/Golden Saber for 9mm/40S&W).

Yep, they are an energy transfer round with adequate penetration.

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The FBI uses wallboard, plywood, sheet metal and windshield glass in its testing, in addition to the bare ballistic gel and cloth covered ballistic gel. So, I just tried to come up with something rather rigorous. Bad guys frequently hold weapons with their hands and arms extended in front of their chest, so a bullet may have to break through bones before it even gets to a their torso. The .380 is a sub-optimal caliber, and it needs all the help it can get. I would not feel comfortable carrying one if not for specialty ammo.

What test do you use?
I don't have a test, but if I did wood and sheet metal are poor substitutes for bone and they would not be used. My point is if I'm using a short barrel .380 I prefer consistency without the danger of overpenetration and the Inceptor bullets give me that.
 
I tried out a few of the recommendations to see if they'd function in my gun and chronographed them to see what kind of velocities I'd get out of the Glock 42.

The Federal American Eagle had the highest velocity of the FMJ rounds and 50 cycled without a malfunction. I chronographed 12 of each round.

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Federal American Eagle191669F30 in Hg95176.98874/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle293269F30 in Hg95183.22884/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle391969F30 in Hg95178.14874/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle494369F30 in Hg95187.57894/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle595169F30 in Hg95190.76904/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle693069F30 in Hg95182.43884/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle794269F30 in Hg95187.17894/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle892269F30 in Hg95179.3874/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle993369F30 in Hg95183.61884/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle1093269F30 in Hg95183.22884/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle1193269F30 in Hg95183.22884/30/2024 9:38
Average Velocity932
Extreme Spread35
Standard Deviation11
Averate ft/lbs183
Average Power Fadtor88

Winchester Target and Monarch FMJ were very close in velocity. I shot 150 of Monarch and 100 Winchester Target through the gun and neither one had a malfunction.

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Winchester target185469F30 in Hg90145.74764/30/2024 9:12
Winchester target286069F30 in Hg90147.79774/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target386469F30 in Hg90149.17774/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target483969F30 in Hg90140.66754/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target587869F30 in Hg90154.04794/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target682469F30 in Hg90135.68744/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target784469F30 in Hg90142.34754/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target886169F30 in Hg90148.13774/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target983569F30 in Hg90139.32754/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target1085869F30 in Hg90147.1774/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target1186369F30 in Hg90148.82774/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target1285969F30 in Hg90147.45774/30/2024 9:14
Average Velocity853
Extreme Spread54
Standard Deviation15
Averate ft/lbs146
Average Power Fadtor76

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Monarch FMJ180769F30 in Hg90130.14724/30/2024 9:19
Monarch FMJ285969F30 in Hg90147.45774/30/2024 9:19
Monarch FMJ383469F30 in Hg90138.99754/30/2024 9:19
Monarch FMJ485769F30 in Hg90146.76774/30/2024 9:19
Monarch FMJ583669F30 in Hg90139.66754/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ686669F30 in Hg90149.86774/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ782569F30 in Hg90136.01744/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ886869F30 in Hg90150.55784/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ986969F30 in Hg90150.9784/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ1089169F30 in Hg90158.64804/30/2024 9:24
Average Velocity851
Extreme Spread84
Standard Deviation25
Averate ft/lbs145
Average Power Fadtor76

Hornady Critical Defense was the only hollow point I had to shoot. I only had a box of 25 and all of them shot with no problem.

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Hornady Critical Defense189669F30 in Hg90160.42804/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense288069F30 in Hg90154.74794/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense387169F30 in Hg90151.6784/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense488869F30 in Hg90157.57794/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense589769F30 in Hg90160.78804/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense685669F30 in Hg90146.42774/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense789069F30 in Hg90158.28804/30/2024 9:26
Hornady Critical Defense887469F30 in Hg90152.64784/30/2024 9:26
Hornady Critical Defense988669F30 in Hg90156.86794/30/2024 9:26
Hornady Critical Defense1089069F30 in Hg90158.28804/30/2024 9:29
Hornady Critical Defense1186569F30 in Hg90149.51774/30/2024 9:29
Hornady Critical Defense1290669F30 in Hg90164.02814/30/2024 9:29
Average Velocity883
Extreme Spread50
Standard Deviation14
Averate ft/lbs156
Average Power Factor79

I received the Winchester ammo today, I actually ordered Winchester Defender Elite not the Silver Tip I thought I ordered. I've still got Underwood and Buffalo Bore, both +P on the way. So far, I'm leaning toward the Federal American Eagle since it has the most impact energy.
 
The Underwood ammo is supposed to be delivered today. If it gets here soon enough, I’ll head to the range and see how the Winchester and Underwood ammo works. I’m going to take the Sig ammo with me to see if it cycles any better after I’ve put a few hundred more rounds through the Glock.
 
I carry these from Precision One. The ones I carry are +P loaded 90gr XTP and designed for pistols with double recoil springs like the Glock 42 not the blowback type like Bersa Thunder. They expand a bit better than shown here. I've actually shot them though denim as well.



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My LCP loves Hornady Critical Defense, 100% reliable, very accurate. I also have used, and currently carry Ruger ARX. Again 100% reliable ( the most important aspect), barrier blind, good penetration. I’d rather carry ball ammunition that’s 100% reliable than a questionable jhp.
 
I tried out a few of the recommendations to see if they'd function in my gun and chronographed them to see what kind of velocities I'd get out of the Glock 42.

The Federal American Eagle had the highest velocity of the FMJ rounds and 50 cycled without a malfunction. I chronographed 12 of each round.

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Federal American Eagle191669F30 in Hg95176.98874/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle293269F30 in Hg95183.22884/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle391969F30 in Hg95178.14874/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle494369F30 in Hg95187.57894/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle595169F30 in Hg95190.76904/30/2024 9:37
Federal American Eagle693069F30 in Hg95182.43884/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle794269F30 in Hg95187.17894/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle892269F30 in Hg95179.3874/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle993369F30 in Hg95183.61884/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle1093269F30 in Hg95183.22884/30/2024 9:38
Federal American Eagle1193269F30 in Hg95183.22884/30/2024 9:38
Average Velocity932
Extreme Spread35
Standard Deviation11
Averate ft/lbs183
Average Power Fadtor88

Winchester Target and Monarch FMJ were very close in velocity. I shot 150 of Monarch and 100 Winchester Target through the gun and neither one had a malfunction.

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Winchester target185469F30 in Hg90145.74764/30/2024 9:12
Winchester target286069F30 in Hg90147.79774/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target386469F30 in Hg90149.17774/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target483969F30 in Hg90140.66754/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target587869F30 in Hg90154.04794/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target682469F30 in Hg90135.68744/30/2024 9:13
Winchester target784469F30 in Hg90142.34754/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target886169F30 in Hg90148.13774/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target983569F30 in Hg90139.32754/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target1085869F30 in Hg90147.1774/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target1186369F30 in Hg90148.82774/30/2024 9:14
Winchester target1285969F30 in Hg90147.45774/30/2024 9:14
Average Velocity853
Extreme Spread54
Standard Deviation15
Averate ft/lbs146
Average Power Fadtor76

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Monarch FMJ180769F30 in Hg90130.14724/30/2024 9:19
Monarch FMJ285969F30 in Hg90147.45774/30/2024 9:19
Monarch FMJ383469F30 in Hg90138.99754/30/2024 9:19
Monarch FMJ485769F30 in Hg90146.76774/30/2024 9:19
Monarch FMJ583669F30 in Hg90139.66754/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ686669F30 in Hg90149.86774/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ782569F30 in Hg90136.01744/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ886869F30 in Hg90150.55784/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ986969F30 in Hg90150.9784/30/2024 9:20
Monarch FMJ1089169F30 in Hg90158.64804/30/2024 9:24
Average Velocity851
Extreme Spread84
Standard Deviation25
Averate ft/lbs145
Average Power Fadtor76

Hornady Critical Defense was the only hollow point I had to shoot. I only had a box of 25 and all of them shot with no problem.

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Hornady Critical Defense189669F30 in Hg90160.42804/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense288069F30 in Hg90154.74794/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense387169F30 in Hg90151.6784/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense488869F30 in Hg90157.57794/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense589769F30 in Hg90160.78804/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense685669F30 in Hg90146.42774/30/2024 9:25
Hornady Critical Defense789069F30 in Hg90158.28804/30/2024 9:26
Hornady Critical Defense887469F30 in Hg90152.64784/30/2024 9:26
Hornady Critical Defense988669F30 in Hg90156.86794/30/2024 9:26
Hornady Critical Defense1089069F30 in Hg90158.28804/30/2024 9:29
Hornady Critical Defense1186569F30 in Hg90149.51774/30/2024 9:29
Hornady Critical Defense1290669F30 in Hg90164.02814/30/2024 9:29
Average Velocity883
Extreme Spread50
Standard Deviation14
Averate ft/lbs156
Average Power Factor79

I received the Winchester ammo today, I actually ordered Winchester Defender Elite not the Silver Tip I thought I ordered. I've still got Underwood and Buffalo Bore, both +P on the way. So far, I'm leaning toward the Federal American Eagle since it has the most impact energy.
Thanks for this information. I'm currently carrying a Walther PPK which had almost the same barrel length (PPK: 3.3", G42: 3.25"), so this is very useful to me. If you ever have the opportunity, I'd love to see a test of the Hornady XTP, American Gunner or Custom.
 
The tests I have seen show less than 10" penetration in gel.

The .380 ACP, especially from a short barrel, is an inadequate compromise round.

Winchester truncated ball is probably best.

From a > 3.5" barrel though, this PDX1 round works.

Also, the FBI gel penetration is an LEO spec.

!0" of penetration is plenty for defensive shooting.
 
This is what I carry in mine. Sorry the image is a bit blurry. The one on the right is the 90 XTP Precision One loading, and the left is the 95gr Northeast Reloading JHP offering. The powder charge for that one is 4.0 WST. They both penetrated 4 layers of denim and 2 water jugs.

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I’ve got Buffalo Bore FMJ, Underwood XTP, Precision One XTP and Winchester Defender Elite to shoot next week. The Winchester looks like the Sig V-Crown my gun didn’t like so I don’t have high hopes for it.
 
When I carry a .380, it's loaded with Precision One's XTP. Lots of crummy rounds out there in this caliber. The tests by ShootingTheBull410 and LuckyGunner do a good job of separating the wheat from the chafe.
 
When I carry a .380, it's loaded with Precision One's XTP. Lots of crummy rounds out there in this caliber. The tests by ShootingTheBull410 and LuckyGunner do a good job of separating the wheat from the chafe.
The XTP bullet (I prefer Hornady American Gunner) is the only JHP I trust to penetrate adequately in .380. Unfortunately, while it runs great in my PPK and P238, it will not feed reliably in either of my P365s due to my grip issues.
 
Here's the latest results. The Underwood, Winchester and Buffalo Bore cycled without issue. The Underwood and Buffalo Bore have similar energy, but what I've seen on-line, the Underwood actually gets some expansion from the 380 and enough penetration to be an effective self defense round. I can't help but think that Buffalo Bore might be susceptible to over penetration. None of them really felt different from the other or seemed like they'd be hard to shoot. I ran out of time and didn't get to shoot the Precision One so I'll have to do that later.

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Underwood XTP JHP1107769F30 in Hg90231.78965/6/2024 9:53
Underwood XTP JHP2106469F30 in Hg90226.22955/6/2024 9:53
Underwood XTP JHP3106269F30 in Hg90225.37955/6/2024 9:53
Underwood XTP JHP4104869F30 in Hg90219.47945/6/2024 9:53
Underwood XTP JHP5106469F30 in Hg90226.22955/6/2024 9:53
Underwood XTP JHP6107269F30 in Hg90229.64965/6/2024 9:53
Underwood XTP JHP7105769F30 in Hg90223.25955/6/2024 9:54
Underwood XTP JHP8105069F30 in Hg90220.31945/6/2024 9:54
Underwood XTP JHP9106869F30 in Hg90227.92965/6/2024 9:54
Underwood XTP JHP10106869F30 in Hg90227.92965/6/2024 9:54
Underwood XTP JHP11106169F30 in Hg90224.95955/6/2024 9:54
Underwood XTP JHP12108369F30 in Hg90234.37975/6/2024 9:54
Average Velocity1065
Extreme Spread35
Standard Deviation10
Averate ft/lbs226
Average Power Factor95

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP193984F29 in Hg95185.98895/6/2024 9:58
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP293284F29 in Hg95183.22885/6/2024 9:58
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP391584F29 in Hg95176.59865/6/2024 9:58
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP492184F29 in Hg95178.92875/6/2024 9:58
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP594284F29 in Hg95187.17895/6/2024 9:58
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP694984F29 in Hg95189.96905/6/2024 9:59
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP790884F29 in Hg95173.9865/6/2024 9:59
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP894584F29 in Hg95188.36895/6/2024 9:59
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP992784F29 in Hg95181.25885/6/2024 9:59
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP1089584F29 in Hg95168.96855/6/2024 9:59
Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 JHP1193184F29 in Hg95182.82885/6/2024 9:59
Average Velocity928
Extreme Spread18
Standard Deviation17
Average ft/lbs182
Average Power Factor88

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Buffalo Bore FMJ-FN
1​
1064​
73F29 in Hg
95​
238.79​
101​
5/6/2024 10:02​
Buffalo Bore FMJ-FN
2​
1059​
73F29 in Hg
95​
236.55​
100​
5/6/2024 10:02​
Buffalo Bore FMJ-FN
3​
1053​
73F29 in Hg
95​
233.88​
100​
5/6/2024 10:02​
Buffalo Bore FMJ-FN
4​
1066​
73F29 in Hg
95​
239.69​
101​
5/6/2024 10:02​
Buffalo Bore FMJ-FN
5​
1069​
73F29 in Hg
95​
241.04​
101​
5/6/2024 10:02​
Buffalo Bore FMJ-FN
6​
1040​
73F29 in Hg
95​
228.14​
98​
5/6/2024 10:06​
Buffalo Bore FMJ-FN
7​
1069​
73F29 in Hg
95​
241.04​
101​
5/6/2024 10:07​
Buffalo Bore FMJ-FN
8​
1060​
73F29 in Hg
95​
237​
100​
5/6/2024 10:07​
Buffalo Bore FMJ-FN
10​
1075​
73F29 in Hg
95​
243.75​
102​
5/6/2024 10:07​
Average Velocity1062
Extreme Spread35
Standard Deviation10
Average ft/lbs238

I gave the V-Crown another shot since I've run over 500 rounds through the gun now. I had a little trouble feeding the first round, but after I just let the slide go and slammed the first round home, the gun cycled all the rest of the rounds without issue. I found out you can't be gentle with the hollow points. I was surprised how slow the Sig V-Crown was compared to other JHP brands. I won't be carrying these rounds in the gun.

Shot ListIndexVelocityTemperatureBarometric PressureBullet WeightFt/lbsPower FactorDate
Sig Sauer Elite Defense JHP180473F29 in Hg90129.17725/6/2024 10:11
Sig Sauer Elite Defense JHP381473F29 in Hg90132.4735/6/2024 10:11
Sig Sauer Elite Defense JHP478373F29 in Hg90122.51705/6/2024 10:12
Sig Sauer Elite Defense JHP577173F29 in Hg90118.78695/6/2024 10:12
Sig Sauer Elite Defense JHP679273F29 in Hg90125.34715/6/2024 10:13
Sig Sauer Elite Defense JHP779873F29 in Hg90127.25715/6/2024 10:13
Sig Sauer Elite Defense JHP875773F29 in Hg90114.51685/6/2024 10:13
Sig Sauer Elite Defense JHP979473F29 in Hg90125.98715/6/2024 10:13
Sig Sauer Elite Defense JHP1079473F29 in Hg90125.98715/6/2024 10:13
Average Velocity790
Extreme Spread57
Standard Deviation17
Average ft/lbs125
 
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