dmpickers
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on gunbroker.com, as a seller, is there an advantage to using a FFL to ship to the buyer's FFL? it seems like the cost would be almost the same b/c of the FFL fee versus me mailing it directly the buyer's FFL using UPS/Fedex.
I think you mean "much cheaper", and there is no difference in "hassle" or "time" for you to do it or your FFL.kingpin008 said:Also, depending on the type of gun, it can be much easier for an FFL to ship it out, vs. a non-licensee.
Also, depending on the type of gun, it can be much easier for an FFL to ship it out, vs. a non-licensee. For instance, FFLs can walk right into the USPS and ship handguns all day long. Non-licensees, not so much. So even with the transfer fee, it'll likely be cheaper (in terms of time, money, AND hassle) for you to go through a FFL on your end in the long run.
Really? When did California throw off the yoke of Federal oppression? It is quite legal to ship firearms to FFLs in CA if you're a private individual.kingping008 said:And yeah, as Daorhgih mentioned, some states (Cali comes immediately to mind) will only allow incoming shipments from FFL to another FFL.
Well for one, many FFLs will only accept shipments from other FFLs. It's not against any law for them to accept from individuals, but many simply won't. So yeah, in that case it's better to go through a FFL on your end as well.
Also, depending on the type of gun, it can be much easier for an FFL to ship it out, vs. a non-licensee. For instance, FFLs can walk right into the USPS and ship handguns all day long. Non-licensees, not so much. So even with the transfer fee, it'll likely be cheaper (in terms of time, money, AND hassle) for you to go through a FFL on your end in the long run.
And yeah, as Daorhgih mentioned, some states (Cali comes immediately to mind) will only allow incoming shipments from FFL to another FFL.
Being an FFL for a while. I no longer accept transfers from Non-FFL's. Why? Lack of documentation for where the gun came from. No name, no address. email to some "Hotmail account." Dispite many attempts to get the name and home address to do the loging, So, three times dealing with that with different sellers. No more transfers from non-ffls. Gun arrives without an FFL copy, package is refused and sent back.
Being an FFL for a while. I no longer accept transfers from Non-FFL's. Why? Lack of documentation for where the gun came from. No name, no address. email to some "Hotmail account." Dispite many attempts to get the name and home address to do the loging, So, three times dealing with that with different sellers. No more transfers from non-ffls. Gun arrives without an FFL copy, package is refused and sent back.
Indeed. The Post Office will not handle anything that does not have a return address.NavyLT said:Well, that's interesting. I would have thought there would have been a return address on the package. At a minimum, I would think the buyer could tell you to whom and to where they sent payment for the gun to. I find it hard to believe that someone would send you a gun out of the blue, without specifying to whom they were intended for or with a return address. I know I certainly have better things to do with my guns than mail them to FFLs anonymously. But there are certifiable idiots in the world, so I am sure anything is possible.Seattlefungus said:Being an FFL for a while. I no longer accept transfers from Non-FFL's. Why? Lack of documentation for where the gun came from. No name, no address. email to some "Hotmail account." Dispite many attempts to get the name and home address to do the loging, So, three times dealing with that with different sellers. No more transfers from non-ffls. Gun arrives without an FFL copy, package is refused and sent back.
Indeed. The Post Office will not handle anything that does not have a return address.
I don't mind shipping through an FFL. Just don't see why I, the seller, should pay for it since it is not a legal requirement.
My post office won't accept anything w/o a return address on it. With humans involved, I'm sure some slip through.Full Metal Jacket said:just got a letter today with no return address.nalioth said:Indeed. The Post Office will not handle anything that does not have a return address.
I'm sorry, but this is incorrect.Full Metal Jacket said:to the OP: you can only ship a gun to someone through the USPS if you have an FFL. otherwise use Fedex or UPS. UPS sux, so i would use Fedex if i didn't have an FFL. if you do have an FFL, the USPS is cheapest
I said "any legal recipient", and I meant it.ZeroJunk said:If I ship it straight to the buyer and not through an FFL that would be illegal.
THat was a business decision made by the FFL holder.jim in Anchorage said:I just checked into this a week ago. Wanted to ship a rifle to a out of state individual. His FFL said FFL to FFL only. My FFL said get a copy of the out of state dealers FFL, bring it to Fed X and they will ship it if the shiping address matchs the FFL.
[18 U.S.C. 921(a)(32), 922(g)(8) and 925(a)(1)]
(B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?[Back]
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
I said "any legal recipient", and I meant it.
Unless your state or local laws prohibit it, you can mail a long gun directly to any legal recipient of your state.
The USPS restriction on shipping for non FFL's is for pistols. Long guns are OK. I have also shipped long guns UPS, but I don't know what their pistol rules are. I have not tried FedEx, but my hunting partner this year tried to ship his rifle back to himself from a MT hunting trip and FedEx would not do it even though it is legal and specifically addressed on the ATF website for hunting purposes, so I guess FedEx is more difficult.
As with the FFL above, that is your personal choice and not required by the law.Zerojunk said:Nalioth said:I said "any legal recipient", and I meant it.
Unless your state or local laws prohibit it, you can mail a long gun directly to any legal recipient of your state.
Not arguing with you at all, but if I ship a gun in state it is still going to an FFL transfer agent.
Can anyone tell me why?Indeed. The Post Office will not handle anything that does not have a return address.
Because stupid people with nothing else to do make up stupid rules.Can anyone tell me why?
That would be priceless if some terrorist was dumb enough to use his own address on the return label.But the anthrax laden package DID have a return address, wasn't it some school?
And they didn't solve the case by looking at the return address.