semi auto recommendations

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"Walmart sells the budget version of the Beretta A-390 for around $529. That is probably the most gun you can get for the money."


There is no doubt in my mind that you are correct on that. It appears that several other people know this to be true too.

I presently own autoloaders from Browning, Beretta, Remington, and Franchi. The Beretta 390 is the hands down winner on reliability. It's also very simple to clean and maintain.
 
I really like the Montefeltro by Benelli, but I've had a lot of experience with the Super 90s over the years and come to find them extremely reliable and perhaps one of the fastest auto loaders out there.
 
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5 years ago I would have agreed with you. After working on Beretta 391s for other people for a few years (while shooting a Remington), I'd have to say that Beretta makes a better auto loading shotgun. Nothing wrong with the Remington, the Beretta is just better.
 
If it was duck and deer, I would go for a Urika 391 in 12 gauge. That's what I've been shooting for about 6 years.

For dove and just pure fun, my dad's Urika 391 in 20 gauge is an awesome, light gun and a blast to shoot.

If you're even thinking 20 gauge, get the Beretta. I think it weighs just over 5lbs.
 
The two autos I've got are both remingtons. One's a 1978 vintage 1100, the other's a 1924 vintage Model 11, which was the licensed copy of the Browning Auto 5. The Model 11 is a bit lighter than the 1100, but I don't have any extra barrels for it, and it's not fitted for tubes. But, it's good at doing anything you'd want to do with a 28" full choked barrel. The 1100 has a couple of extra barrels with it. Not as convenient as tubes, but gives better results, since the different lengths change how the gun swings.

The only other major difference between the two is that the 11 has to have the friction rings set for light or heavy loads. The gas operated 1100 is self adjusting. Also, the 11 doesn't have a vent rib. Neither one has ever jammed, on factory ammo. They're comparable on cyclic speed, about .19 sec between shots, with me at the trigger.

I wasn't really looking for a shotgun, when I bought the 11, but was just looking around at a gunshow. At one booth, a feller was selling .30 Carbine ammo. I had to buy some, of course. While he was getting my change, I started fondling the guns. One of them fit me like a dream. Swung and pointed like a magic wand. I asked him how much it was, and he said $150. I had a basic theoretical knowledge of how an Auto-5 worked, so I took it apart to see if anything looked drastically wrong. I handed him $150, and took it home. Next day, I went 180 straight with it. I'm pleased.

I've never shot the Beretta or Benelli, but my beretta O/U is a serious quality piece. I imagine that their autos, which have a stellar reputation for durability, are equal to just about any task, as well.

~~~Mat
 
"The Top 10 semi-auto shotguns in the World are:

1. Benelli Super 90 family (Montefeltro, M1, M2, M3, M4 etc...)
3. Remington 1100 family (1100, 11-87)
4. Browning A5 and varients (Remington Model 11, FN, Savage & Franchi 48, though FN Mfg guns are preferred).
5. Browning Gold, worthy heir to the A5
6. Beretta 391
7. Winchester SX family (1,2 & 3)
8. Winchester Model 50
9. ???
10. ???
"
 
"required 3 round total"

I have a saiga 12 and lesser capacity magazines are made for artifical hunting regulations. I will admit not to know much about other variety of semi automatic shotguns but don't most tube fed shotguns have more than 3 shot capacity? I quickly looked at a remington 1100 on gunbroker and it says 4 + 1 capacity. Now do you reduce it to 3 max and easily back to full capacity?

IMO (subjective but agreed upon by almost ALL owners) the S12 is reliable and compared to other shotguns lighter on the recoil somewhat. I have taken it skeet shooting but will admit it was not the best for that. I hit about the same as with any other shotgun but dealing with the detachable magazine and the one shot or two shot only and the bolt open rules was a nuisance. Plus it will not cycle the low recoil skeet rounds. Loves AA sports. I can rent an over and under there for six bucks and it is easier to deal with for skeets. I would suspect that would be my choice for dove hunting too. If my only choice was my saiga I would be having dove gumbo that night so don't poo poo it all together.

As far as the tacticool dig GUILTY! I have tricked my saiga out with pistol grip, folding stock, better handguard, AK sights for longer radius, flashlight, additional 10 round magazines. If the game is kill or be killed especially in a home defense scenario it is to go for gun. In 3 gun competition I can fire and load fairly quickly and I am a ham fisted doofus. Guys who are good and take it serious can not be beat with a saiga with multiple magazines. PERIOD. The guys I love to watch are the ones who load one shot in a pump. It is amazing how well and how fast they be but it takes real SKILL. Pure art. I have total confidence with its AK design that even under extreme abuse it will go bang. I might have the same confidence in a good tube fed pump but not a semi automatic.
 
Too Many Guns

It is official, I think I have every gun mentioned on this thread. In regard to which auto is the best I think it depends on what you are going to use it for. If you are like most folks and fire less than 1000 rounds a year I really don;t think it matters a whole lot. I have a Benelli Cordoba (12), a M2 (20), a Stoeger 2000 (12), 4 1100's (12,16,20 and 28), 2 1187's (both 12's), an A-5 16 Ga (don't get excited it has a polychoke), and a Browning Golden Clays.

I get to go to Argentina a couple of times a year and have shot almost all of them down there. The Cordoba and M2 both functioned admirably (2000 rounds over three days without a jam or misfire. The gas guns clog up after about 1000 rounds. Like I said, I really don't think it matters a whole lot as long as you buy quality, are not going to be doing any high volume shooting and keep them clean.

Good luck and try to wear one out!!!!!
 
Good luck and try to wear one out!!!!!

rsmith78130,
Welcome to THR and great post!

Oh, my SX1 only has ~ 300,000 rds and is still running like a top.
Couple of my other SX1s are nearing that round count...

Beretta 303 20 ga has about 200,000 rounds and still felling what pointed at.

Winchester 1400 in 12 and 20, over 100,000 now...
I could mention some others like A5s, 1100s, SX2s...

Damn I and mine have tried to wear some out - honest!

*snicker*


Steve
 
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