***PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE POST BEFORE YOU RESPOND. DO NOT RESPOND TO THE QUESTION POSED IN THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD.
YES, IT WILL BE A BIT LENGTHY, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS EXACT SITUATION. THANK YOU.***
My friends; someone posted a passage, quoted below, that truly struck a chord with me.
Please read it, and then continue below.
My friends, I do not think I need to explain to any of you here the utter depravity of the anti-gunners and the depths to which they will stoop.
They label us as terrorists, murderers, nuts, extremists, and all other sorts of foul, disgusting epithets. They are not exaggerating when they say this; they truly mean it and want people to believe it.
All that gun owners want is to be left alone, to do what we want, to enjoy our freedom, just like any other law-abiding American citizen.
The facts show that gun owners are in general better educated, hold higher-paying and more prestigious jobs than non-gun owners, are more law-abiding (almost to a fault) and less tolerant of government abuse of dissenters, etc. than non-gun owners.
In short, gun owners are generally better people and better citizens than non-gun owners.
Yet they will not stop persecuting us.
They lie, cheat, and decieve to achieve their ends.
I am growing more and more afraid that "the system" (voting and other peaceful means) has failed us and will only get worse as time goes on.
Here is a perfect example of how the system is being undermined WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE from www.fiftycal.org:
That's a REAL kick in the face, and a huge step over that proverbial line; our elected representatives lie, cheat, and use other unethical and illegal means to push their agenda.
It is absolutely reprehensible, inexcusable, and those who participated in this "ghost voting," republican OR Democrat, should be tried and executed for treason.
AREN'T SITUATIONS LIKE THIS EXACTLY WHY THE FOUNDING FATHERS WROTE THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?????
WHY ARE THERE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR ACTING IN A TREASONOUS MANNER LIKE THE POLITICIANS DESCRIBED ABOVE???????
Further, in CA, we successfully recalled our communist governor, making a pretty large statement that we are sick and frickin' tired of business (lying, cheating, stealing, etc) as usual, and, IMO, taking a large step in the right direction.
Even THAT has failed us.
I ask you to seriously think about the facts I have presented thus far.
How long are we going to wait until we practice some "civil disobedience" of our own??
Or have I gone nuts?
Again, the above quoted passage from a THR member really, truly hit home;
it seems that, for many people, the only option left is the cartridge box or the moving box.
Like the War on Terror, I do not think that this is a war that will be won if we continue to play nice.
The only way we've ever played is "nice" and look where its gotten us.
We are all too happy to piss and moan on the internet, gripe about how the NRA isn't doing anything (or even harming us), write a few emails or letters, and call it a day.
We are going to lose in the long run if we keep playing like that.
Your serious thoughts are requested.....
YES, IT WILL BE A BIT LENGTHY, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS EXACT SITUATION. THANK YOU.***
My friends; someone posted a passage, quoted below, that truly struck a chord with me.
Please read it, and then continue below.
I don’t own a .50-BMG rifle, can’t afford one, and don’t particularly want one, but the new ban both saddens and angers me. It seems that the soap box, ballot box, and jury box have already failed us. All that’s left is the cartridge box or the moving box. Which will we choose?
Gun owners are law-abiding almost to a fault. I’m not aware of a single gun-control advocate or collaborator who has ever been assassinated. We can’t even muster a little civil disobedience. We just keep on playing the polite political game, and we keep right on losing it. Why is that?
The banning of the .50-BMG rifle may not even be that big of a loss for us, but it won’t be the last. Almost every single year, new gun-control legislation is introduced and passed in California. Democratic governors sign them. Republican governors sign them. What difference does it make?
Even now, more gun-control bills are still pending. Though we’ve all called, written, and e-mailed, multiple times in some cases, there is little hope that Governor Schwarzenegger won’t sign them. In particular, his signature on the ammunition-registration bill would/will be yet another major defeat for us. Where is our “line in the sand�
My friends, I do not think I need to explain to any of you here the utter depravity of the anti-gunners and the depths to which they will stoop.
They label us as terrorists, murderers, nuts, extremists, and all other sorts of foul, disgusting epithets. They are not exaggerating when they say this; they truly mean it and want people to believe it.
All that gun owners want is to be left alone, to do what we want, to enjoy our freedom, just like any other law-abiding American citizen.
The facts show that gun owners are in general better educated, hold higher-paying and more prestigious jobs than non-gun owners, are more law-abiding (almost to a fault) and less tolerant of government abuse of dissenters, etc. than non-gun owners.
In short, gun owners are generally better people and better citizens than non-gun owners.
Yet they will not stop persecuting us.
They lie, cheat, and decieve to achieve their ends.
I am growing more and more afraid that "the system" (voting and other peaceful means) has failed us and will only get worse as time goes on.
Here is a perfect example of how the system is being undermined WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE from www.fiftycal.org:
Do-Overs and a Ghost Runner on Third...
There is apparently no limit to the insanity in California. For the umpteenth time in the long and sordid tale of AB-50, the California Assembly voted on the bill and the bill lost by a 35-36 margin. That was voting by the rules.
But the rules seem to matter very little in Sacramento. Shortly after voting to send the fifty caliber ban to a well-deserved grave, California Democrats called for a "re-vote" and we watched as a handful of Democrats pressed the vote button at their own desk, then calmly walked to the empty desk of another member of the Assembly and voted a second time. This, we learn, is what California Legislators call "Ghost Voting." Nobody there is shocked because "they do it all the time." Ah, I see...
As an American who'se last "do over" was somewhere around the third grade, I was stunned. What they casually call "ghost voting" seems to me like a complete abrogation of the whole voting concept. So who gets two votes? Does anybody get three? What can California residents hope for when their fundamental system of government has been reduced to a series of childish games?
These questions will boggle the rational mind until Californians decide to trust the reins of government to those who believe in silly, outdated ideas like rules and procedure, or "one equal vote for all." That matter is beyond our hands. What is before us is the last step on AB-50s road to becoming the greatest farce put into state law.
That's a REAL kick in the face, and a huge step over that proverbial line; our elected representatives lie, cheat, and use other unethical and illegal means to push their agenda.
It is absolutely reprehensible, inexcusable, and those who participated in this "ghost voting," republican OR Democrat, should be tried and executed for treason.
AREN'T SITUATIONS LIKE THIS EXACTLY WHY THE FOUNDING FATHERS WROTE THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?????
WHY ARE THERE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR ACTING IN A TREASONOUS MANNER LIKE THE POLITICIANS DESCRIBED ABOVE???????
Further, in CA, we successfully recalled our communist governor, making a pretty large statement that we are sick and frickin' tired of business (lying, cheating, stealing, etc) as usual, and, IMO, taking a large step in the right direction.
Even THAT has failed us.
I ask you to seriously think about the facts I have presented thus far.
How long are we going to wait until we practice some "civil disobedience" of our own??
Or have I gone nuts?
Again, the above quoted passage from a THR member really, truly hit home;
it seems that, for many people, the only option left is the cartridge box or the moving box.
Like the War on Terror, I do not think that this is a war that will be won if we continue to play nice.
The only way we've ever played is "nice" and look where its gotten us.
We are all too happy to piss and moan on the internet, gripe about how the NRA isn't doing anything (or even harming us), write a few emails or letters, and call it a day.
We are going to lose in the long run if we keep playing like that.
Your serious thoughts are requested.....