Shaky when using AR
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troy fairweather
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Layoff the caffeine or add some weight to the gun.
LiveLife
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Slide support arm back until elbow rests against rib cage (Essentially using support arm as monopod against ribcage) to maintain steady front sight for slow fire.
For faster target acquisition, point thumb of support hand on handguard forward and use it to index/point toward next target/point of aim. For more precise control for fast action shooting at multiple targets/points of aim, you want to work towards extending support hand forward on the handguard as demonstrated by Jerry Miculek (See 3:38 minute of second video):
Jerry Miculek - Pointers on How to Hold an AR-15 for Consistent, Accurate Shooting
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I can't really add much over what @LiveLife did with those videos, but one thing to consider is something mounted to the handguard to help make sure you are gripping it at a consistent point vs, just sliding your hand to where you think it should be.
You can use a handstop, vertical foregrip, sling swivel, angled foregrip, really anything that is "permanently" mounted to make sure you are gripping at the same point.
Personally I prefer the angled foregrip and run one on all but one of my AR's and that one is a bare bones M4 style rifle with milspec round forearm but it does have the fixed sling swivel that I use as an index.
You can use a handstop, vertical foregrip, sling swivel, angled foregrip, really anything that is "permanently" mounted to make sure you are gripping at the same point.
Personally I prefer the angled foregrip and run one on all but one of my AR's and that one is a bare bones M4 style rifle with milspec round forearm but it does have the fixed sling swivel that I use as an index.
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Have you tried the hasty sling technique?
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Practice with any technique will probably give you a little more accuracy.
What technique I use depends on what I need. In 3 gun I hold differently than say 3 position shooting, for example. One is better for speed, the other for accuracy but both can win their game.
What technique I use depends on what I need. In 3 gun I hold differently than say 3 position shooting, for example. One is better for speed, the other for accuracy but both can win their game.
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Are you having trouble holding it or controlling it when firing? My experience with a Sig MPX was that the reciprocating mass of the blowback action rocked the gun considerably.
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Agree with @westernrover. 9mm PCCs are usually blowback designs and can have more felt recoil and muzzle rise than a .223 AR15.
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Have you tried the hasty sling technique?
Training Tip - Hasty Sling
Staff Sgt. Nathan Lockwood with the Service Rifle Team provides this week's #trainingtuesday. This U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit Soldier explains the hasty sli...
This x10
W.E.G.
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Wobble while firing offhand?
Never heard of such a thing.
Never heard of such a thing.
Pat Riot
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For years all my long guns were traditional type guns. Bolt actions, M14s in the Navy, Lever actions, M1 Garand, M1 Carbines, single shots. I shot a few ARs that belonged to friends. About 17 years ago I bought my first AR-15.
It was odd at first. I couldn’t quite figure out where to put my left hand shooting right handed. I utilized my sling to stabilize the rifle like I was taught by my Dad (Marine) and this worked for me until 2 shoulder surgeries and the removal of the cartilage in my left shoulder. Now I bring my left hand in and grip the mag well and this works for me.
It was odd at first. I couldn’t quite figure out where to put my left hand shooting right handed. I utilized my sling to stabilize the rifle like I was taught by my Dad (Marine) and this worked for me until 2 shoulder surgeries and the removal of the cartilage in my left shoulder. Now I bring my left hand in and grip the mag well and this works for me.
It kind of does the u shaped rocking when holding and firing.
Do you not notice a similar movement with bolt or lever rifles or is it only with the AR?
If you want more stability for accurate shots using just body mechanics, the following helps me:
- Use your support hand to pull the rifle into your shoulder/chest/clavicle (wherever you choose to mount the buttstock).
- Rotate both of your elbows down and inward as far as you can (some call this "wringing the towel").
W.E.G.
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Yeah, no "chicken wing" when shooting offhand.
Unless it helps.
Basically try not to disturb the lie of the rifle in the time between when you close your eyes, and when you jerk the trigger.
You just shot a 7?... No a 6?... Oh heavens! You gotta be quicker than that!
"Wringing the towel eh? - I kinda like that I'll add that to my list of reasons.
Unless it helps.
Basically try not to disturb the lie of the rifle in the time between when you close your eyes, and when you jerk the trigger.
You just shot a 7?... No a 6?... Oh heavens! You gotta be quicker than that!
"Wringing the towel eh? - I kinda like that I'll add that to my list of reasons.
That's what Pat Rogers called it. I don't know if he coined the term and/or invented the technique, but I learned it from him.
W.E.G.
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Pat has probably FORGOTTEN more stuff that he invented, than most folks have ever invented.
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