Short sword suggestions

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I want a short sword as a display piece for my home, but also something I can pick up and fight a home invader off with if necessary. (I have a gun, but it's not always nearby). What would be a good self defense sword, and what length would be acceptable in an apartment with limited space?
 
It really depends on how much you want to spend and what style you want. If you plan on using it for self defence then you want something fairly durable, such as carbon steel not stainless. I would check out www.swordforum.com and see if you can't get some solid advice from my friends over there. I've been a member there for about seven years and you find a better source of good blade advice anywhere.

To get you started in the right direction I would suggest looking into the following options.

$50-$150 range: Not much out there I would suggest other than Paul Chen's Practical line of Japanese swords, for the price you can't do much better.

$150-$250 range: Windless Steelcrafts make some very nice medieval swords that are quite rugged. Also historically accurate if youre into that sort of thing, like I am.

$250-$350 range: You'll find a lot of Cold Steel's swords within this price range, including their nasty cutting Hand-And-A-Half Sword, but may be too long to use in an apartment. All their swords come super sharp and would be fine for self-defence. Check out their Warrior Series O-Tanto for around $240 on www.bytheswordinc.com.

$350+++ range: High-end Cold Steel Japanese swords, high-end Paul Chen, Angus Trim swords and Del Tin's are the leaders here, probably not what youre looking for.

As for length, I would stay short as possible, any blade length over 25" will be hard to use in most apartments, you may as well go with a long bladed knife. If you want an actual sword then I would suggest the something in realm of 13"-18" such as the Cold Steel Moro Borong or the O-Tanto I mentioned earlier. You may also want to look into the "Kukri" its classified more as a knife but some are quite large and would make a great defence weapon in an apartment.

Like I said go to www.swordforum.com and ask this same question you may get some real good advice from them, they don't talk about guns over there its all blades. Good Luck, hope this helps!
 
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Yeah, something under 25" would be best. If you want something pretty, then a Wakazashi would be fine. Or you could go for one of those Cold Steel magnum Tanto knives.

If you want something a little bit different, then there are other options.

Moro Barong: http://www.coldsteel.com/88pb.html

Naval Dirk: http://www.coldsteel.com/88nd.html

Magnum Tanto: http://csstoreonline.stores.yahoo.net/fixed-blades-tanto-series.html

Magnum Tanto XII
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Specifications:
Blade: 12"
Overall: 17 5/8"
Weight: 14.2 oz.
Steel: VG-1 San Mai III
Thickness: 3/16"

13MBXII PRICE=$474.99


Also, the Angus Trim 'tactical' range is nice. http://www.angustrimdirect.com/tacswords.htm

Tactical Short Sword
Total Length: 30.5" or 24.5
Blade Length: 23" or 17"
Handle Length: 5"
Weight: lb oz
Price: $330 for either size

Tactical Leaf Blade
Total Length: 33.25"
Blade Length: 23.5"
Handle Length: 9"
Weight: lb oz
Price: $400


If you are engaging a violent intruder in a corridor, you may not have enough room for a longer slashing weapon like a Katana, but a nice little short sword would be great for thrusting attacks, and will keep an attacker at arms length.
 
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I can relate to this question....having a desire for a short sword....that lives under the bed for those imagined moments of need. But in truth...it is only an imagined threat...so I had no interest in spending a lot of money on a blade that has no real use. Did some looking around on the internet...came across a blade called.."Black Wind"...Made by the Ontario Knife Company.
Which...according to thier website....are a contract provider for the USMC for the issue combat knife. Web site shows many blades that do look like goverment issue blades....so take it for good or bad. The "Black Wind"....are short swords.....mine has a 20 inch blade....extremely sharp... with 10 inch grip....for two handed hold. This thing seems quite sturdy....for what it is....can be had from Cabelas..look under camp axes and machetes.

Cabelas calls it a Brush Cutting Machete..in two lengths....the longer one is from the Ontario Knife Company.
 
You are not limited to japanese style blades. Cas and Kris Cutlery and Valiant all have less expensive usable pieces available. Stay within the Paul Chen/Hanewi family at CasIberia.

You should only get a blade that fits you. 18" to 24".

Get a blade with a good stabbing point.

If you want a real working blade you've got to stick with carbon steel. Anything that says "stainless" should be avoided.

You can't go wrong with a barong or waki or gladius.

For cheap and ugly you can get one of the Cold Steel machetes that have a stabbing point or you can go to Condor and get one of theirs for under $50.
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You've already been advised to check out swordforum. Go to Bladeforums and Knifeforums as well.
 
I would check the local laws before using a sword for home defense. Here in New MExico a guy is taking his chances by using what in court could be considered a less than lethal weapon on an intruder because the law here states use of deadly force is legal, not use of maiming force. I have heard a few horror stories about people getting sued by the friggin ROBBER/rapeist/burgler/murderer after being simply de capacited by the home owner and they in this liberal society usually win! So, I'd say buy the sword as a nice thing to look at and show off and learn to use, but when it comes down to it use the gun.
 
Gladius. Intuitive short sword. Great for thrusting as well as hack & slash. Designed for confined-space infighting, it's a lot more useful than broadswords and japanese blades indoors.
 
maiming force"
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Any use of any blade is treated as use of lethal force. Gun, baseball bat, axe, knife, sword, machete, morning star, etc. are all use of lethal force under the law.
 
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hso - Aren't the Condors 420HC? IIRC I looked into buying one a while back and was turned off because of this.
 
HSO, I don;t think that would hold true in NM when someone you didn;'t kill tried to sue you. But if the person died, their family might say you are perfectly accurate if they were trying to sue you for a wrongful death lawsuit.
 
look into a Nan Dao, or shorter variant..

More importantly, look into a training program for use of the weapon you choose to defend with.

it is very easy to cut youreself with a sword, if you dont know how to use it.

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I know what I'd want, personally... but have no idea if it exists or what it'd be called.

Basically, a "carbine" of a pole arm. Longish blade, ~15", but primarily designed for a stabbing motion (as hallways and rooms are not well-suited to swinging a blade). Pole part is 3-4' long, with a cap (not quite a heavy pommel) on the other end. Preferably wrapped in paracord.
 
"I know what I'd want, personally... but have no idea if it exists or what it'd be called.

Basically, a "carbine" of a pole arm. Longish blade, ~15", but primarily designed for a stabbing motion (as hallways and rooms are not well-suited to swinging a blade). Pole part is 3-4' long, with a cap (not quite a heavy pommel) on the other end. Preferably wrapped in paracord."


Cold steel used to make a short spear that is almost exactly what ya want minus the parcord. I think it was a zulu spear ? I have two of em. Longish double edged blade on a short shaft. I thought they would be handy indoors etc. They say that they were designed for the hand to hand in tight quarters- and they can be thrown.

As far as the sword goes- I have a Criswell that I like. I got the shorter one.
 
SniperX,

It hardly matters what the civil lawsuite would be since there is no legal term "maiming force" that I'm aware of. The simple fact is that any club/blade/firearm is treated as a deadly weapon and their use lethal force.

OTOH, when you end up in civil court being sued all bets are off and the family's lawyer can make up any terms they want to try to sway a jury. Your attorney then can take them apart if they get too creative with the terminology.

Regardless, if what I have at hand is a claw hammer/barong/shotgun when I'm protecting the life of myself or wife or daughter I won't spend a moment thinking about what a jury may or may not say. My only thought will be to whether my family is in real, not imagined, danger and just how fast I can stop it.
 
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"Regardless, if what I have at hand is a claw hammer/barong/shotgun when I'm protecting the life of myself or wife or daughter I won't spend a moment thinking about what a jury may or may not say. My only thought will be to whether my family is in real, not imagined, danger and just how fast I can stop it."


no doubt!
 
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