MatthewVanitas
Member
I've always lusted after little shorty AR-15s like the DPMS Kitty-Kat and the XM607 Vietnam-era mini-M16. They seem handy, "cute", and out of the ordinary yet still using mainstream parts and accessories.
However, the more I've heard about shorty ARs, the more problematic they seem. My (chairborne-commando) impression of .223 7"-11" ARs:
--Loud, huge muzzle blast
--Gas-cycling issues
--Can use a Noveske to redirect the noise, but tricky to use with cans b/c of likelihood of baffle-strikes
--Notable loss of velocity, though not as bad as some folks imply
Given those issues, would a 9mm shorty be just about as cool for plinking and gaming? Maybe 7"-10" barrel, no gas issues with the blowback mechanism, collapsing stock, put a nice big can on it too balance it out and get max suppression, etc. I've seen some sub-sonic .44Mag bolt-rifles that sounded "movie quiet", so I'd hope that a 9mm subsonic rifle with a good can would also be extremely quiet.
Does a .223 11" AR still greatly exceed the 9mm AR in terms of useful range, and general ballistic utility?
Does anyone here have a 9mm Shorty-AR? Comments, reviews?
-MV
However, the more I've heard about shorty ARs, the more problematic they seem. My (chairborne-commando) impression of .223 7"-11" ARs:
--Loud, huge muzzle blast
--Gas-cycling issues
--Can use a Noveske to redirect the noise, but tricky to use with cans b/c of likelihood of baffle-strikes
--Notable loss of velocity, though not as bad as some folks imply
Given those issues, would a 9mm shorty be just about as cool for plinking and gaming? Maybe 7"-10" barrel, no gas issues with the blowback mechanism, collapsing stock, put a nice big can on it too balance it out and get max suppression, etc. I've seen some sub-sonic .44Mag bolt-rifles that sounded "movie quiet", so I'd hope that a 9mm subsonic rifle with a good can would also be extremely quiet.
Does a .223 11" AR still greatly exceed the 9mm AR in terms of useful range, and general ballistic utility?
Does anyone here have a 9mm Shorty-AR? Comments, reviews?
-MV