Shot for first time today

[N3rday]

YAY!
Well, not so yay since my mom went
shot with a rented glock 19, post ban mag that was brand new and wouldn't allow more than 7 into the mag

shot all the hell over at 7 yards

Saw a dude there with 6" Taurus Tracker, everyone else had some kind of glock.

Their rental list consisted of like 15 glocks, a beretta, a sig and a colt 1911

Sometimes when the slide on the Glock 19 was back and I stuck the mag in, it snapped forward without me touching the slide release. Is this normal?

 

[Shmackey]

Sometimes when the slide on the Glock 19 was back and I stuck the mag in, it snapped forward without me touching the slide release. Is this normal?

That must be the, uh, "gay" mag.

 

[zahc]

I though you HAD BEEN shot! I was gonna say hope it's the last...

Sometimes when the slide on the Glock 19 was back and I stuck the mag in, it snapped forward without me touching the slide release. Is this normal?

I think so. My HK USP does it.

 

[Black Majik]

Sometimes when the slide on the Glock 19 was back and I stuck the mag in, it snapped forward without me touching the slide release. Is this normal?

I dont own a glock, but I have shot them before.

That does not seem normal.

 

[jzimm9mm]

Sounds like that Glock has seen better days. I have a post ban Glock 19 and both magazines hold 10 rounds. And the slide does not close when I insert a magazine. Mine doesn't shoot all over, at 7 yards or farther, either. You might want to rent a different gun the next time you go. But hey, a bad day at the range is better than a good day at work!

Jer..

 

[Sven]

Fun! Try the 1911 next time, for sure.

 

[Black Majik]

Agreed. Try a 1911

 

[10mmshooter]

Another enthusiastic vote for trying a 1911!

 

[BluesBear]

Sounds like you had a good time.

I hope you thanked your Mom for taking the time and allowing you to go shooting.

 

[GigaBuist]

You should be able to fit 3 more into that mag -- you just need to push harder. When they're new and the springs are still in good shape it's a little tough sometimes. Might take a little practice is all.

My Glock 21's slide will slam shut when I pop a new mag in sometimes... if I whack it good and hard. That isn't by design.

 

[N3rday]

The rangemaster said I have a problem with squeezing the trigger

Dry fired and whaddayaknow, I just can't get the gun to stay the hell still when i pull the trigger

 

[spacemanspiff]

all it takes is practice. many modern semiautos will close the slide if you exert enough force when inserting a fresh magazine. my steyrs will do that.

also see if the guys at the range can show you the proper way to hold the pistol, how tight your grip should be. oh yeah, and have them show you how the glock trigger resets itself, you can increase accuracy by learning just how far you must release the trigger before it can be fired again. i found myself slapping the trigger quite often until i figured that one out.

 

[Black Majik]

As far as trigger pull, what you are referring to is "flinching"

People usually flinch because they anticipate the recoil of the pistol.

Practicing dryfire (downrange of course) will help you overcome the flinching and gain more accurate groupings.

Just before you load the magazine (always check to see that the magazine is out of the gun and the chamber is empty) dryfire your target a few times and try to keep the gun still. Then put the magazine in the gun, chamber the round and pull the trigger slowly while maintaining your target.

Dont rush it, take your time... and oh yeah, dont forget to breathe

 

[10-Ring]

Sounds like you have a pretty cool mom to take you shooting. Did she say she's willing to take you again? Hope so

I think so. My HK USP does it

It's normal for the USPs to do this. Dates back to at least the HK4 that didn't have a slide release. I don't think it's suppose to be a normal function of the Glock tho.

 

[N3rday]

Yes, my mom was relieved. She said she'd take me again after i make Life in Boy Scouts, which is unfair because it is physically impossible to do this until 6 months from now, because you have to hold an elected position for 6 months.

I'm negotiating...oh, and they DO have a 1911 to rent, but they said it jams like a mo

 

[Werewolf]

Sometimes when the slide on the Glock 19 was back and I stuck the mag in, it snapped forward without me touching the slide release. Is this normal?

This is not normal for a Glock. Insert mag with open slide and slide should stay open. With the slide locked back there are two ways to make the slide go into battery:

1) Pull back on slide and release it (and that means release it - don't walk it back into the battery position).

2) Push down on slide release lever.

Some Glocks (none I've ever owned though) have been known to fire out of battery. It's possible that could happen in the situation you've described (though I doubt it).

FWIW if you rent another glock and it behaves in the manner you've described take it back and tell 'em you want one that works and don't let 'em give you any BS about how that's the way it's supposed to work because it's not. If they persist then ask 'em if that's how it's supposed to work then why doesn't it release the slide every single time I insert a loaded mag?

 

[OF]

You've got a very cool Mom. Don't let her forget that.

- Gabe

 

[ChickenHawk]

Don't let these guys scare you. I have three Glocks and have experienced this from time to time with all of them. None have EVER fired while inserting a magazine. If your finger isn't on the trigger that is just NOT possible.

Someone once suggested to me that Glocks are more likely to have the slide release if the muzzle is pointed down while you insert the magazine. I make a point of keeping the muzzle level (or pointed just a bit up) and haven't seen this happen in quite some time.

In any case, don't sweat it. It's not a defect.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

 

[sturmruger]

Interesting

This kind of reminds me of when my mom bought me my first gun. I was only sixteen so there was no legal way to purchase the Mini 14 that I wanted. I had it shipping to a local FFL who then transferred it to my loving mother. I still laugh that on some goverment list somewhere her name is listed as being the owner of a Ruger Mini 14.

I would have love to have been a bug on the wall of your house when you were trying to talk her into taking you to the range.


If you live in Northern WI or the Minneapolis, MN area I would let you shoot one of my guns for no cost. I love to take new shooters to the range. Good Luck I hope you have many more trips to go shooting.

 

[Peetmoss]

I can make my G19 do it at will. Asked about it over at GlockTalk when I first got the gun. Everyone said not to worry about it. So I never have.

 

[Werewolf]

Chickenhawk Postulated that:

Don't let these guys scare you. I have three Glocks and have experienced this from time to time with all of them. None have EVER fired while inserting a magazine. If your finger isn't on the trigger that is just NOT possible.

Someone once suggested to me that Glocks are more likely to have the slide release if the muzzle is pointed down while you insert the magazine. I make a point of keeping the muzzle level (or pointed just a bit up) and haven't seen this happen in quite some time.

In any case, don't sweat it. It's not a defect.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

From the GLOCK manual pg 23 para 4.

After the last round has been fired the slide remains open. Remove the empty magazine... Insert a new magazine and then either push the slide stop lever downward or pull the slide slightly backward and allow it to spring forward...

Nowhere does it say the slide should spring forward on it's own when a new magazine is inserted. If it does it's a defect caused by some part that has become excessively worn.

Is it a major defect - probably not. Is it a potential safety hazard - IMO yes. All some yahoo (and many gun renters are just that) has to do is be startled when the slide slams home unexpectedly and the next thing you know a round has gone down range (down range if you're lucky) if the moron had his/her finger on the trigger (and there's lots of them out there - I notice 'em every time I go to the range).

A lot of folks not terribly experienced with weapons or who have a cavalier attitude about saftey, maintenance or proper mechanical operation probably ignore a defect like this one and will probably get away with it. BUT all it takes is one time and the right set of circumstances and someone is injured if we're lucky and dies if we're not.

I've never experienced the problem of the slide moving into battery on it's own when a mag is inserted. If I did then that weapon would be making a trip to a gunsmith shortly thereafter. I'm not willing to risk someone else's life (and that's the risk because with the noted defect it's unlikely that the shooter would be injured) because my weapon doesn't operate correctly and I don't even know it's hosed or don't care because the problem only happens "every now and then".