Dudedog
Contributing Member
Been thingking about it.
You said you did load 5.2 with the 1.25 OAL and still to light correct?
Was the feeding issue at 1.25 or 1.275 or both?
Are they the 185 FP or the hollow base round nose?
I see Berrys reccomends 1.25 OAL for the RN, no reccomendation for the FP.
Sorry about 20 questions, just trying to help.
I use differnent color sharpies to mark the bottom of the cases in case the ammo gets mixed up.
I make a key
Blue = (say 5gr OAL 1.23)
Green=
Black=
Orange=etc.
Wallyworld has a pack with 7 colors for less than $10. The wider tip makes it quicker to mark the case bottoms.
That way I can mark my different ones I am testing and put them all in one or two ammo boxs.
If it was me I would load 10 using (HP38)
with 5gr OAL 1.23
with 5.2gr OAL 1.23
with 5.4 OAL 1.23
Some guns do just have tigher chambers and need a shorter OAL.
Like I mentioned earlier I load the RMR 230s to 1.23. Others need to go to 1.2 in their pistols. (not saying these OAL are right for the Berrys)
That would give you about 30 rounds.
Maybe 5 each at 5 gr and 10 of each at 5.2 and 5.4.
Shoot the lightest/longest first.
I am guessing with that spread you will find a sweet spot that shoots and feeds. Once you have that you can test a bit lower/higher if desired..
As an example say 5.4 at 1.23 shoots and feeds. You might want to then try 5.3 and 5.5 or 5.6 and see if they seem more accurate. Or if you are happy with 5.4 then Yea! your there.
Normally you don't want to make two changes at one time, but you do have two issues, to light (stovepipes) and the feeding issue.
Shortening the OAL could take care of both even at the start charge of 5grs.
but maybe not.
For the heck of it you might start a new thread with the title
Favorite load for Berrys "type" 185gr .45 bullet and see what people have to say, even they use a different powder it might give you a heads up on what OALs are working for other people.
I would bet money (if I had any left after pating my taxes) that some peoples favorite load is going to be using HP38/WIN231. (Remember they are the SAME powder, not a powder that may load about the same)
Side note-Some mil-spec 1911s will feed SWCs (like the 200gr I sent you) fine and some just plain don't like SWCsno matter what the OAL is. (the SWCs do cut nice clean holes in paper targets
)
All should feed RNs if the OAL is to their likeing. So after you get the Berrys going you might want to try the RMR 230s before the SWCs.
Please don't let the stovepipes/feeding issues get you discouraged.
Remember you are Relativity speaking just starting 1st grade.
Be safe , Enjoy
You said you did load 5.2 with the 1.25 OAL and still to light correct?
Was the feeding issue at 1.25 or 1.275 or both?
Are they the 185 FP or the hollow base round nose?
I see Berrys reccomends 1.25 OAL for the RN, no reccomendation for the FP.
Sorry about 20 questions, just trying to help.
I use differnent color sharpies to mark the bottom of the cases in case the ammo gets mixed up.
I make a key
Blue = (say 5gr OAL 1.23)
Green=
Black=
Orange=etc.
Wallyworld has a pack with 7 colors for less than $10. The wider tip makes it quicker to mark the case bottoms.
That way I can mark my different ones I am testing and put them all in one or two ammo boxs.
If it was me I would load 10 using (HP38)
with 5gr OAL 1.23
with 5.2gr OAL 1.23
with 5.4 OAL 1.23
Some guns do just have tigher chambers and need a shorter OAL.
Like I mentioned earlier I load the RMR 230s to 1.23. Others need to go to 1.2 in their pistols. (not saying these OAL are right for the Berrys)
That would give you about 30 rounds.
Maybe 5 each at 5 gr and 10 of each at 5.2 and 5.4.
Shoot the lightest/longest first.
I am guessing with that spread you will find a sweet spot that shoots and feeds. Once you have that you can test a bit lower/higher if desired..
As an example say 5.4 at 1.23 shoots and feeds. You might want to then try 5.3 and 5.5 or 5.6 and see if they seem more accurate. Or if you are happy with 5.4 then Yea! your there.
Normally you don't want to make two changes at one time, but you do have two issues, to light (stovepipes) and the feeding issue.
Shortening the OAL could take care of both even at the start charge of 5grs.
but maybe not.
For the heck of it you might start a new thread with the title
Favorite load for Berrys "type" 185gr .45 bullet and see what people have to say, even they use a different powder it might give you a heads up on what OALs are working for other people.
I would bet money (if I had any left after pating my taxes) that some peoples favorite load is going to be using HP38/WIN231. (Remember they are the SAME powder, not a powder that may load about the same)
Side note-Some mil-spec 1911s will feed SWCs (like the 200gr I sent you) fine and some just plain don't like SWCsno matter what the OAL is. (the SWCs do cut nice clean holes in paper targets
)All should feed RNs if the OAL is to their likeing. So after you get the Berrys going you might want to try the RMR 230s before the SWCs.
Please don't let the stovepipes/feeding issues get you discouraged.
Remember you are Relativity speaking just starting 1st grade.
Be safe , Enjoy
