Shotgun for my wife.

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boone052

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My wife has expressed an interest in going with me to shoot sporting clays. I was wondering what advice you all had as to which gun/load I should buy her. She is fairly diminutive, and would need a junior/beginner gun probably. Any advice from someone else who's just starting out (especially advice from women) would help greatly.

If there's another thread that has already dealt with this topic, please direct me to it.

Thanks
 
A shotgun shopping trip, with her making the decisions, asking the questions, and you writing the check, is in your immediate future. She should have the shotgun that fits her, that she can handle the recoil for, that matches what you want to do.

You can't buy one for her. She has to do this for herself.

I think, in some ways, this is even more true for shotties than for pistols (and anybody who's been around here awhile has run across me opining on Let Her Pick It Out Herself on pistols and revolvers.) Because if handgun recoil is a mouse, some shotguns' recoil is an elephant. And it hits against areas that are, um, tender and do not take well to bruising (voice of experience here.) VERY tender and VERY much don't like bruising....

That said, I will tell you where I started in my search for a good shottie, and what I ended up with. I originally thought a 28 gauge would be about all I could manage. I have very thin shoulders, they have rheumatoid arthritis affecting them, and then there's that whole Very Tender Bruising thing. Anyway, I looked and looked and eventually picked a 20 gauge semiauto...a Beretta Urika 291a. Even with a semiauto, though, I found that I had to have the stock cut down to accomodate a very good recoil pad installation. With that recoil pad, I can shoot that Beretta all day long if I could afford to :)

But that's me. She needs to pick her own. Some women are small enough that a youth model works for them. Others complain that a 20 gauge youth kicks like a mule and they hate it. For me, at 5' 7", a youth model felt like a toy, so I got a regular sized Beretta.

Take her shopping. Have fun.

And tell her "congratulations" on getting into this. They're a hoot.

Springmom
 
A mossy in .20 gauge should be perfect my wife can shoot that fine. My sister can also handle a .20 gauge fine and she is only 110lbs.
 
Thank you all for the advice. I have an 870 express 12ga 3" that my wife has shot before and can handle, but not for all day. I was leaning towards an 870 in 20 ga, and that's probably where we'll start looking. As Springmom pointed out, the decision is hers, and we'll probably have alot of fun in finding one together.

Thanks again for everyone's help. Looking forward to gun testing and shooting with my wife.

And I will pass on "congrats"...
 
If you get down to the Houston area, PM me and we'll go shoot trap at Carter's Country :D Unfortunately, as is, you're a bit far away.... :neener::neener::neener:

Have fun shopping!

Springmom
 
springmom,

Speaks true.
Her excellent post is worth reading again, and being put in THR Library.


Regards,

Steve
Yeah, I always look forward to her replies in the "what xxx for my girlfriend/wife" threads.
 
my wife had not shot before and i was in the same position you appear to be in. i wanted to encourage her to enjoy a sport i liked so she would join in. she handled two shotguns at the store...i had several over and under 12 guages and they were heavy.... the first, a bennelli montefeltro and the other a beretta, both automatics and both 20 gauge. the montefeltro felt best to her (i liked the beretta but it was not to be my gun so said nothing). the bennelli came home and she has enjoyed it enough to shoot clays, geese and pheasants. she even named it "big momma". it is very soft shooting and light of weight. neither guns were inexpensive, however, as they were in the 1k range. but better to buy something good for more, than to save money and not achieve the purpose of the purchase which was to have her enjoy the sport.
 
Saiga .410 or Saiga 20. Both can be customized to be her gun. (stocks, barrel length, chokes, etc, etc can all be changed fairly easily)

If you're thinking something less complex, get a single barrel 20gu from wal mart for $200. Put a buffer pad on it, and let her go!

good luck either way
 
Get her to the range with a professional instructor. He or she will be able to ground her in the basics and let her try various shotguns and she can determine what she likes. Then go shopping.

The gun I use to introduce women or small statured shooters is a Remington 1100 28 gauge. Low recoil, light gun, hits targets well and easier to teach with than an o/u. If Beretta made a 391 in 28 gauge I'd have one of those instead.
 
All good advice. Will be taking her to the range very soon (and I will be looking at handguns for myself; very excited). Just wanted to know if there were a few choices to narrow the field down to, rather than going to the range or store and saying, "I dunno" when the instructor/shopkeeper asks, "What shotgun(s) would you like to see?".....

Again, thanks to all. very helpful info and opinions.
 
You should be able to get a mossberg 500a superbantum (its shorter in the stock) in a 20 ga for about 200 dollars out the door still in a box if you shop around. A 20 ga is fine for pidgeons, and it wont be that bad on the kick/wallet and it's a super durable action (the marines use a mossberg 500 for instance).
 
IF it fits her, I'd go with a Beretta or Benelli semiauto in 20 gauge. The stock on mine was too long for me, so you might have to cut it down some...so plan on that additional expense.

But the semiauto absorbs a WHOLE lot of recoil.

Part of what I left out of my first post: when I went to Bass Pro (where I finally bought the shotgun) I had made up my mind (famous last words) that I was going to get a Beretta 28 gauge. The one I had my eye on was $2100 (this was my request for my 25th wedding anniversary present, so money was not a huge issue). The Beretta guy was there that weekend doing time behind the counter, as it was a sale on various types of shotguns. He talked me into the semiauto, and in so doing, made an $800+ sale instead of a $2100 sale. But he was certain, if recoil was really the issue for me, that I needed the semiauto. IMO, he was correct.

That's where I'd look. I've just heard of too many women complaining that youth stocks of pump actions kick like mad and they don't like them.

Springmom
 
Good post Springmom! My wife is 5' 6" with a strong fairly athletic build. Youth guns do not fit her. Full sized guns SLIGHTLY shortened do. Her favorite shotgun was a Beretta 390 12 ga cut to 14" lop followed by my 28 ga Citori (14 1/4"). Her next gun will probably be a 20 ga Beretta 391. It may have to be shortened a little.

If you REALLY want your wife to shoot with you: Buy her a nice gun that fits her (or have it fitted) and doesn't kick the crap out of her. You may be happy with an 870 Express and can tolerate it's recoil. She probably will not; especially with a youth version.
 
Beretta 3901 Target RL.

It's gas-operated, so the recoil is less than a pump. It's still a 12 gauge, so the gun still has decent weight to it, also to reduce recoil. However, the length of pull is adjustable from 12-13", and the barrel is 26", so it balances well. On top of all that, the comb is adjustable, so you can get that aspect of gun fit fine-tuned as well!

Cameron
 
Purely out of curiosity, if a semi-auto is whats needed to reduce recoil, is there any particular difference between the various semi's? Like, will a super black eagle II recoil more, less or the same than a Beretta?

Interestingly, this is my first post in the shotgun forum after being a member of THR for something like 3 years...
 
I'm a bigger guy 6' 220, and just speaking from my own exp, my Citori 12 ga shoots softer than my mother's mossberg bantam 20. This is for a couple reasons. One, my citori is obviously heavier so it soaks up some of its own recoil. And two, it's barrels are ported which also helps quite a bit. You probably already know this, but the suggested way to to "fit" a long gun is to place the butt of the stock in the crook of your elbow and see if your trigger finger rests easily on the trigger. That will give you your needed length of pull. I started out with a winchester 1300 youth when i was 9. I teach hunter ed, and we tend to stay away from single shot exposed hammer shotguns. They can be clumsy for newer shooters and some even lack safetys. Just don't forget that as the gun gets lighter, recoil gets heavier.
 
TimboKhan, not all Semi auto shotguns are equal in reducing recoil.

Gas actions like the Berettas, Brownings other than the A5 and Remingtons do reduce the kick by slowing the pulse and spreading it out over more time. Kick becomes push.

Inertia actions do not. Benellis and A5s are inertia actions. The SBE kicks hard. Benelli has invested a lot into better pads and stocks to offset this.
 
The difference in felt recoil among the different autoloading types depends a lot on gun fit, BUT assuming the gun fit is exactly the same, gas-operated should have less felt recoil. I've found that the inertia-driven models kick MAYBE a little bit more, but the *SPROING* of the recoil spring is the most noticeable thing for me.

Cameron
 
Several women at my range have noticed that they find Benellis and Berettas tend to fit them a little better than Mossbergs or Remingtons. They seem to be weighted a little differently in a way that works for more women.

I use a 12 gauge Benelli Montefeltro and enjoy it immensely. Most of the women I've shot with have Montefeltros or 3901s.
 
ROTFL!!!!!

Now, sm, I was just invoking your name the other day at Carter's Country, so it's funny you should say that. I mean, it's a Weatherby Athena d'Italia in 28 gauge, a beautiful work of art if ever there was one, and I told my husband....

...."You know SM would say I should have it."

I am sorry to report that the rotten rat fink replied,

"Then SM can pay for it."

No justice in the world, I tell you. None at all.

Springmom
 
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