grampajack
AR Junkie
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Tell me, if it's a part of my patriotic duty to serve in a militia which does not exist then why doesn't the gov't pay for my gun purchases? Hell I'll take a free Remington if they're handing them out for that invasion that isn't going on right now. I make $8 a hour, work part time, and share living conditions with people who all don't like guns, so waxing patriotic isn't going to convince me to by a fogey ol pump to fight the criminals that live no where near us. If you want me to get a 870 so bad tell them to start making Utas 15's in their factories or come up with something new.
You're a cheeky fellow, aren't you.
Which is fine, but what is your purpose here? Are you seeking advice, trying to justify what you already know is a bad decision, or are you on some strange mission to try and make believers out of all us UTAS haters???
In your OP, you claim to be seeking advice. But why? Let's say you get a craving for ice cream. You already know ice cream is bad for you, so you don't need us to tell you that. You're more than five years old, so you already know what flavor you like. We can lecture you about how ice cream is bad for you, or tell you which flavor we think is good, but those are things you already know mingled with subjective opinions that have nothing to do with your personal tastes. If we're here to talk about our subjective tastes, then I vote for the SPAS 12. I absolutely love the way it looks, and I would buy one if given the right opportunity, but I would never try to justify it for self defense. Possibly for collector value, but never ever for defense. Or for hunting or skeet or any other practical purpose. It would be purely for me to play with.
What pains me though is your attitude. First of all, the militia does exist, as I already told you. Every able bodied citizen capable of bearing arms is part of the militia, as it was defined by our founding fathers. And the government doesn't supply the militia with arms for two reasons. First and foremost, the militia exists primarily to resist the formation of a tyrannical government, and secondly to repel an invasion by a foreign army or to quell unrest. Thus, it would be inappropriate for the government to have anything to do with the militia's affairs, such as supplying its weapons. Also, we are not socialists, we are a republic. Contrary to popular belief, it is not the government's place or job to give anything to anyone. It is your responsibility to furnish your own weapons for your own self defense. Do you realize that the constitution does not even afford you the right to emergency services, such as law enforcement? It affords you the right to protect yourself, nothing more. The police are a bonus, and they protect you out of the goodness of their hearts, not because they are compelled to by any law or moral obligation. They can put down that badge at any time and take up an easier job for more pay, and that's sadly what's happening because of how they're being abused, both by the government and by the people.
As for your roommates, do you pay your share of the rent? If so, then they have absolutely no right to say one word about you having a gun. That is your house as much as it is theirs, and you have your rights accordingly. With that said, I don't go around advertising my guns to people. When I was in college, I had roommates for the first two years, and I didn't tell them about my guns. Some of my close friends knew, but that was it. Finally, you've already made the decision to get a gun, so this is really a moot point. It doesn't matter what kind of gun you get to your roommates. If they're anti gun, then one gun is the same as the next to them. If anything, a "grampa gun" would make them feel easier than some radical two barreled death machine. But I would advise you don't tell them about it or leave it where they would find it. Anti gun people are scary around guns, so just pretend like you're living in a house with small children. Meaning keep the gun locked and hidden. When you transport the gun, break it down and put it in a gym bag so they think you're just going to the gym.
I'm also assuming that you're 21 or about to be very soon. As such, you should be focusing on a pistol that's appropriate for concealed carry. Again, it is your duty as a man and as an American to provide for your own defense as much as is possible. If you're expecting the police to rescue you, you have another thing coming. And I've got news for you, there are criminals everywhere. There are heroine and meth addicts in your neighborhood, and hundreds or thousands of them in your city, depending on population. There's a place called Jasper AR where I have family. It's a sleepy little place in the Ozarks with a small population that's popular for retired folks who like to come watch the leaves change. I once had the opportunity to view the local sheriff's office's collection of weapons seized during drug raids. It looked like like they had raided El Chapo's compound. Big display case full of gold and silver plated SMGs, and not the semi auto knockoffs you see at gunshows. Every last one had been confiscated from local meth dealers. And if the crime rate in that sleepy little town is that high, just imagine what you're dealing with in any decent sized city. You should go down to your local PD and ask for a ride along. Ask the officer what kind of stuff he deals with on a weekly basis. You'll never look at your little neck of the woods the same again. Like I said before, would you want to live in a house without smoke alarms?