Should I buy a used Hi-Point?

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There's a lot of differing opinions. There always have been. Including opinions with glocks, sig, and any other manufacturer. Some people love them. Some hate them. But you will always be able to find both sides. I think, when it comes to any gun purchase, certain things need to be put into perspective.

1. Is it your ONLY gun. If you are only going to have 1 handgun; and it's going to be for plinking, self defense, and home defense; then I think you need to be more selective. And yes, if I am only going to have one gun, it probably wouldn't be a Hi-Point. Then again, it probably wouldn't even be a semi-auto. It would be a 357 magnum revolver. Largest range of uses over ANY AND ALL OTHER CALIBERS. Greatest selection various ammo. 38spl - 357. Power levels equal to those just over a 380acp, all the way beyond all other defensive handguns. So, if it's your only gun, other considerations must be taken.

2. What will you use it for? If you don't have a CCW, and you either don't or can't open carry, then is it for home defense or plinking? Also, combine this with my first consideration and you can decide if it's a good gun or not.

3. Finally; are you in a position where you even NEED this gun, or is it something you mainly WANT? While it's definitely possible to get mugged, robbed, raped, etc... in any spot in the country, some people are in more of a need than others. Where I live, unless you were afraid of an estranged ex-wife/husband, or similar; it is one of the safest places in the entire country. Different attitude among people here. Yes, 85% of all citizens having a gun does affect the attitude of criminals, but it's safe none the less. It's a paradox. Don't need guns, because it's so safe. It's so safe, because everyone has guns. So, for the person who chooses to not have a gun, because they don't need one, a hi-point might be perfect for plinking and having fun. Being they don't feel their life is at risk.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that a Hi-Point isn't reliable enough to defend your life with confidence. Many people believe they are, and that's what matters. I'm just saying that each person will see having a gun from a different perspective. Unfortunately, there are a lot of naive and ignorant people who buy guns totally based on what others say, or in the belief that all guns are equal. That too is wrong. I love my 1966 Mustang. Rebuilt 289. Plenty of horses. I love the car. But, would I have it if I could only have or afford to have 1 car???? No. I would go with the "MORE" reliable 2004 Toyota camry. If I had to sell all my semi-auto guns but 1, would I keep the Hi-point as that 1? No; without a doubt; I'd keep my SigSauer P220. What if I had to get rid of ALL guns but 1. I'd probably keep the S&W 357 mag revolver for a handgun. But I have options. Some people don't. For some people, the Hi-Point is all they have. And for many of them, they don't put thousands of rounds through their guns. So basically, any gun that is shot maybe 1 or 2 boxes of ammo a year, will probably be quite reliable when you need it. 95% of all incidents only require the mere sight of a gun to scare off the bad guy. If you do need to fire, the 1st shot is usually enough to scare or stop the threat. And most semi-auto problems usually allow at least the 1st shot before a problem. So, even with a bryco, jimenez, or phoenix, getting at least 1 shot off is better than nothing. It's all a matter or perspective.
 
I had a FEG

It was the SMC-380, a PPK clone. Very accurate little shooter. Ended up getting rid of it because it tore up my hand like a PPK.
 
If I had stumble upon ANY Hi-Point for $55- $65, I would first ask myself why it's so cheap and look it over... (A little advice for those who are not familiar with Hi_points- Bring a #8 Punch tool with you if you want to take it apart to examine it) Then the next question I would ask the seller is "Do you take Visa?"

IMO, Hi-Points are heavy, "ugly", bulky, and cheap. I know, I used to have the .45 but sold it for a smaller gun so I can take my CHL. But they go Bang. And finding a $55-$65 9mm to just fart around with at the range, when 9mm ammo is so readily available and cheap... and you won't feel bad if it gets banged around in your glove box, tackle box, bottom of your tool box, or dropped in the mud if you are out hunting... I say good find my man, good find.

And you can't beat the warranty...
 
Thanks Chef. I too am very conscientious about used guns. I know pretty much where this gun came from. One of our local gun dealers won a "BID" for a batch of 150 confiscated weapons collected by various local police departments and sheriffs offices. There were plenty of rifles, shotguns, and pistols. MOST were not confiscated because they were used in a crime; but mainly because the individual/owner was not allowed to have the gun. E.g. caught concealed without a permit; confiscated during the investigation of other offense; etc... Anyway; this came from a batch of police confiscated weapons.
 
Boy those things are ugly... sorry, no offense. But for $55 I think it is hard to beat. I would totally buy that to mount under my work bench in the garage.
 
Yea KB, they aren't the greatest looking gun. Then again, I think the Glocks are also pretty ugly. But if it works out ok mechanically, it will be a fantastic gun to take as a side arm hunting; in the garage; in my trunk; etc... It's one of those that most people who have shot them say are reliable. Yet cheap enough that I'm not worried. I sure wouldn't leave my thousand dollar sig P220 in the truck or garage.
 
Chargerlord said:
take your 65$ and buy modern warfare 2 youll be a lot happier. Ive shot these things and wasnt impressed, yes its cheap but youll be happier with the video game beleive me. And one of the few guns you cant use in the game you guessd it a 9mm High point if its not good enough for a video game its not good enough for the real world
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...seriously?
 
Saw a High Point at the range gun counter today (was looking at some 1911 for the next purchase). For some reason, the large slide make it look like a science fiction movie prop.

The fact that it was on display at a California range means it passed the California drop safety test and authorized for sale.

$127 - Wow. :eek:
 
"take your 65$ and buy modern warfare 2 youll be a lot happier. Ive shot these things and wasnt impressed, yes its cheap but youll be happier with the video game beleive me. And one of the few guns you cant use in the game you guessd it a 9mm High point if its not good enough for a video game its not good enough for the real world"

Chargelord, you have to be joking...right? I mean seriously... I'm begging you to fess up, you were joking! If not, then what kind of reply is that to a question about buying a used hi-point. I don't mean to embarrass you, but good gosh man! Speak from experience, not from video game conjecture. That would like me saying I don't like plumbers because Luigi was goofy looking!
 
FMOfartO:

Well, here's my 2c worth regarding the Hi-Point pistol.

First, never owned, or even fired one. I have held one at a gun shop and the one I held was uglier than sin, but..

From everything I've read on the various firearm forums for years the Hi-Point pistol seems to be more than the sum of it's cheap parts, and ugly frame. Time after time I've read forum threads regarding the Hi-Point pistol and the vast majority of those comments are about two facts.

1. The Hi-Point pistol is an ugly mother.
2. The Hi-Point pistol actually shoots pretty well and it's light years better than having no firearm for personal protection at all.

Additionally the Hi-Point comes with a lifetime warranty... Not the lifetime of the original owner, as with most firearms manufacturers, but basically FOREVER, no matter if the owner is the 1st, or the 100th owner. IF the Hi-Point ever just goes belly up and cannot be repaired at the factory, they'll just send you a NEW one.

I'm a name brand snob when it comes to pistols and revolvers, and I'd never be caught carrying such a cheap, ugly gun for protection, UNLESS I only had enough money to buy a Hi-Point, then I'd snatch up one of the ugly things in a heartbeat.

For folks with limited funds the Hi-Point, IMHO, is the best deal in town.

Just personal opinion, no offense intended.

Jesse

P.S. I DO have a Hi-Point 995 9MM carbine. Excellent little carbine, bought new, for $150.00. It functions and fires perfectly, and makes a nice companion to my 9MM pistols. (Not Hi-Points obviously).
 
How about this?

From what I read from various user experience forums and gun magazine write ups, Hi Point guns appear to be functional guns with good accuracy.

Everyone agrees that they are ugly and you can't beat the price.

So ..... would you buy them if the company made the guns more attractive?
 
I don't think alot of people would be more inclined to buy them. I"ve heard alot of comments on the forums stating that their life wouldn't be trusted to a cheap gun. Many people have the cheap gun phobia. Now, if you slapped a $300 price tag on the hipoint, then they'd be tripping over themselves to buy one.
 
I had 3 of the C-9's. Ugly and heavy. Accurate and reliable. I did carry mine concealed a few times. Compare it to a Glock 19 like I did. Actually size wise there's not much difference. To para-phrase Forrest Gump, Ugly is, as ugly does.
 
I seen one in .45 that was green for $165 new. I must say I was tempted to buy it for the price but I just couldn't bring my self to buy something that ugly. I don't mean to offend anyone that has one but the things fell out of the top of the ugly tree and hit ever limb on the way down. Most people say they go bang every time but if it ever don't its ugly enough and big enough to scare the pee out of someone (just kidding).

Only one I ever shot was a friends .380 version out of the box it wouldn't eject right. The brass would get caught sticking half way out the side. He sent it back and they tweaked it and got it right. He turned around and sold it when .380 got so hard to get. After it was fixed it was a very accurate weapon but it was as big as my pt145.

If I had a chance to buy a .45 for that cheap I probably would just to have it. I don't need any more calibers tho so no 9mm for me.
 
I wouldn't accept a free hi-point, let alone fork out cash for one...I see that in post #51 the op mentions them in the context of comparing Glocks & Sigs, which is virtually the same as comparing a used Yugo with a Subaru Outback and a Corvette....
 
I would definitely accept a free Hi-Point, no question! If it didn't work I'd just send it in to the company for the free repair.
 
I wouldn't accept a free hi-point, let alone fork out cash for one...I see that in post #51 the op mentions them in the context of comparing Glocks & Sigs, which is virtually the same as comparing a used Yugo with a Subaru Outback and a Corvette....
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Harsh talk ain't it? Personally, a used Yugo competes with a Subaru Outback and a newer version Corvette, they lost their styling back in the late 60's early 70's in my opinion.

You wouldn't take one if it were given to you for free? Your choice, I guess. Mine still hits the range with me every week or so, it might not be my choice of a carry gun, but the damned thing goes bang every time I pull the trigger and the round hits where I opted to aim it. Oh, I own a Glock 22 as well, and it ain't no beauty queen either, but it works like the Hi Point does as well. I carry a XD myself, I like the grip safety and the round count of the magazine, it packs an extra over my Glock and double the Hi Point's.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My CCW instructor is an avowed Sig owner, and the firearms instructor for the local county sheriff's office, and trains their officers and the majority of smaller local PD's officers, and somehow he was able to overcome his idea that a gun had to be "pretty" to work effectively, and I'd value his opinion on any gun over a gun bigot on line, his attitude was "if it works when you need it to, it was money well spent."

Gee, guess that Inland Rack grade I just got from CMP isn't worth owning going on your opinion, she sure as hell ain't pretty right now either. But a little work with some BLO will make her look better.

Hope you take this the way it's meant, but in my opinion gun snobs opinions are worth what I paid for them, absolutely nothing.
 
In my opinion, someone that would turn down a free hipoint is probably just spouting off just to be "cool".

While you may think mine is ugly and a piece of junk, to me it's a thing of beauty...because I earned it with my hard earned money and saved up for a year so I could pay cash for it.
 
wgaynor said:
In my opinion, someone that would turn down a free hipoint is probably just spouting off just to be "cool".

While you may think mine is ugly and a piece of junk, to me it's a thing of beauty...because I earned it with my hard earned money and saved up for a year so I could pay cash for it.
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I left "cool" behind when I graduated high school back in 78! Frankly, if it took you a YEAR to save for a throw-a-away gun that can be had NIB for about $110.00 it leaves me with more questions then answers.
If I were to save for a year for a specific firearm, it sure wouldn't be $110.00 throw-a-away model....
 
stickhauler said:
Harsh talk ain't it? Personally, a used Yugo competes with a Subaru Outback and a newer version Corvette, they lost their styling back in the late 60's early 70's in my opinion.

You wouldn't take one if it were given to you for free? Your choice, I guess. Mine still hits the range with me every week or so, it might not be my choice of a carry gun, but the damned thing goes bang every time I pull the trigger and the round hits where I opted to aim it. Oh, I own a Glock 22 as well, and it ain't no beauty queen either, but it works like the Hi Point does as well. I carry a XD myself, I like the grip safety and the round count of the magazine, it packs an extra over my Glock and double the Hi Point's.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My CCW instructor is an avowed Sig owner, and the firearms instructor for the local county sheriff's office, and trains their officers and the majority of smaller local PD's officers, and somehow he was able to overcome his idea that a gun had to be "pretty" to work effectively, and I'd value his opinion on any gun over a gun bigot on line, his attitude was "if it works when you need it to, it was money well spent."

Gee, guess that Inland Rack grade I just got from CMP isn't worth owning going on your opinion, she sure as hell ain't pretty right now either. But a little work with some BLO will make her look better.

Hope you take this the way it's meant, but in my opinion gun snobs opinions are worth what I paid for them, absolutely nothing.
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Used Yugo's compete with what? Again with the comparison's to a Glock? Cut it out! Hi-Points are POS that are intended for the inexperienced newcomer & gangbangers, gun-snobbery indeed....
 
"I left "cool" behind when I graduated high school back in 78! Frankly, if it took you a YEAR to save for a throw-a-away gun that can be had NIB for about $110.00 it leaves me with more questions then answers.
If I were to save for a year for a specific firearm, it sure wouldn't be $110.00 throw-a-away model.... "

Let me answer your questions then my friend. I work hard for a living. This is a recession. Now you may be one of the elected elite that has all the money to spend, I don't. Shame on you for making a comment such as yours. Many people are in my situation, but for you to cast judgement on me for not having funds available such as you is low class and rude.

I make decent money. I pay child support. I pay taxes. I earn my living honestly. Now, your response leaves me with more questions than answers. who do you think you are responding to another forum member that way? Or is the gun snob in you coming out, just so you can call it a throw away gun?

Me, I'm rather proud of the lifestyle that I live. While I am not poor, I do not throw my money away and I pay cash for everything. I don't ask for handouts or bailouts. Perhaps you should go reevaluate your values, or at least your answer to my post.
 
wgaynor said:
"I left "cool" behind when I graduated high school back in 78! Frankly, if it took you a YEAR to save for a throw-a-away gun that can be had NIB for about $110.00 it leaves me with more questions then answers.
If I were to save for a year for a specific firearm, it sure wouldn't be $110.00 throw-a-away model.... "

Let me answer your questions then my friend. I work hard for a living. This is a recession. Now you may be one of the elected elite that has all the money to spend, I don't. Shame on you for making a comment such as yours. Many people are in my situation, but for you to cast judgement on me for not having funds available such as you is low class and rude.

I make decent money. I pay child support. I pay taxes. I earn my living honestly. Now, your response leaves me with more questions than answers. who do you think you are responding to another forum member that way? Or is the gun snob in you coming out, just so you can call it a throw away gun?

Me, I'm rather proud of the lifestyle that I live. While I am not poor, I do not throw my money away and I pay cash for everything. I don't ask for handouts or bailouts. Perhaps you should go reevaluate your values, or at least your answer to my post.
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Well lets just look at that a moment, shall we?
If you saved just $1.00 a day for an entire year, you could have bought yourself a NIB Ruger 9mm!
If you saved just $2.00 a day for an entire year you could have landed a NIB Glock-17/19/26 or a S&W M&P plus about $150.00 worth of ammunition!
If you had squirreled away just $3.00 a day for an entire year you could have landed yourself a decent garden variety M4 Carbine including about 400 rounds of ammo, or you could have latched onto a fairly decent 1911 from Kimber, SA, even Colt's!
Instead you managed .30 cents a day(nothing wrong with that if thats all you can do)and secured yourself a Hi-Point, like everything else in life, quality is simply a matter of mathematics...
 
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I have a .45 in a basket on top of my refrigerator. They are the perfect house gun or utility pistol. Take them fishing, leave them in the car, they can take lots of abuse. If it gets damaged its no big deal, they dont cost $500. They work pretty good as far as i can tell, they're cheap because they are big, ugly, and heavy, low capacity pistols. About the opposite of a decent carry piece.

I'd get it, for 70 dollars heck yeah. I had one of the c9's years ago and i remember how little recoil i felt from it. They shoot great.
 
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