Sig P229 .357 Sig

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I am considering trying to trade my Bushmaster for a Sig P229 in .357 sig. I simply like pistols better. I would be using this for general shooting and also for CCDW. My experience with Sigs are limited to the P226 which I enjoyed very much.

Anyone here own one of these and can relate their experience with them? Is .357 sig a worthy SD round? And do you think a Bushmaster M4A3 with a round count of 150 bearing very minor blemishes would be an acceptable trade in someones eye?

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I have both P226's and P229's in 357SIG and like them very much. If you can find a dealer that has both models, I'd look at them together. While they really are not all that much different size wise, they do feel slightly different in your hand. They both shoot the same for me, and I usually carry a P229.

I was a die hard .45 fan until I got my first 357SIG. I really like the round, its accurate, potent, and easy to shoot well with. Some complain that its loud and flashy. It does have a little bark, but nothing all that bad, and I get no flash that I notice out of mine, factory or reloads. With the P226/P229, you get 12 rounds of basically 357MAG 125 grain HP's out of a sweet shooting pistol. Whats not to like? :)


Regardless which one you choose, cough up the extra dough for the factory night sights. You wont regret it.


I dont know what you paid for the Bushmaster, but around here, a P229 or P226 with night sights goes for around $750.
 
The 357SIG has certainly been somewhat controversial, especially on the internet. Seems to be a bit of a love/hate thing going on, although it does seem to have toned down a bit of late.

Most that have guns chambered for it like it, and if it turns out you dont, a simple barrel change, at least with the SIG's, is all you need do to make it a .40. Most of the reports on caliber changes on here I've seen are the reverse though. Its usually the .40 owners going to the .357SIG.
 
I have two P229s. One is very old (first production) and one is quite new. The new one has the rail and has the 40 and 357 barrel. I prefer the 40 for social carry. The 357 was never my cup of tea for social work. It is too loud and offers nothing that the 40 doesnt offer for self defense. The 229 is a very nice carry pistol, although I find myself carrying other pistols, I do like the 229.
 
The P229 (and/or the P239) is definitely my least favourite of the classic SIGs (and I've tried them all)--it simply does not "feel" as good or carry as does the P228, P225, P226. Personnally, I would only have a P229 for as long as it took me trade it for a P228 or P226.

As for the 357 SIG, it's simply another choice--it doesn't offer anything in terms of effectiveness the other service calibres don't offer (and depending on where you live, it can be a little harder to find and a little more expensive to shoot than the 9x19 or .40 S&W).
 
I love my .40 229. Remember if you decide you don't like, or don't want to pay for .357Sig ammo, it's a simple matter to drop in a factory .40 barrel in a 229 and shoot either caliber. BarSto also makes a 9mm conversion barrel, so the 229 can actually shoot all three calibers, if that makes a difference to you or helps make up your mind. You won't need to swap anything but the barrels (no slide, spring or magazine changes required) and you're good to go.
 
I've got a 229 with a .357 barrel, it's pretty funny to shoot at an indoor range (L O U D). I agree the .40 is more practical but the power of the .357 compared to the .40 is visible (think flame thrower) and I love to shoot it when I can afford to.
 
I love my .40 229. Remember if you decide you don't like, or don't want to pay for .357Sig ammo, it's a simple matter to drop in a factory .40 barrel in a 229 and shoot either caliber. BarSto also makes a 9mm conversion barrel, so the 229 can actually shoot all three calibers, if that makes a difference to you or helps make up your mind. You won't need to swap anything but the barrels (no slide, spring or magazine changes required) and you're good to go.

That is amazing.

So who wants an AR-15?

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I like the 229, but given that a pistol is a quality made piece, whether or not you like it is going to be totally subjective. It is a bit thicker and heavier than some other pistols that I could carry. I like it enough and shoot it well enough to carry it anyway.

I like 357 SIG. However, I think all the defensive pistol calibers are about the same in terms of effectiveness: 9mm, 45 ACP, 40SW, 357SIG - some may have slight advantages over others in some particular situation, but overall I am certain there is not enough difference between them to justify all the debate over which one is better. They're all effective defensive pistol calibers, which one you pick should be determined by which one you shoot best.

The "relative unavailability" of 357 SIG doesn't affect me in the slightest. If you buy your ammo retail from gun stores, you're going to pay through the nose no matter what caliber it is. If you reload or buy in bulk, they're all about the same. Except 9mm, which is definitely less expensive than the other options.

If ammo cost and availability is a big issue to you, the 229 does come in 9mm or you can get an aftermarket barrel to convert your 357 SIG 229 to shoot 9mm (doesn't work the other way around - the 9mm models can't be up-converted to 40/357).

If I was thinking 229 in 9mm, I would rather get a 228 which is basically the same pistol but lighter and better balanced (becuase it doesn't have/need the heavy stainless steel slide required to shoot 40/357).

I prefer some brands of aftermarket night sights to SIGlites. This may have changed on the newer ones, but the older SIGlites were difficult to see in the daytime. The Trijicons that are basically the same thing have a larger white plastic "daytime" ring around the tritium lamp, so they're easier to see in the light. Lots of people on the SIGfourm like meprolights.

Unless you are really riled up to get the accessory rail, I would consider getting a SIG certified preowned and save some cash. SIGs are definitely durable enough I would not worry about buying a used one, especially one that's been inspected, freshened up, and tested at the factory.

One other thing - if you are a pistol "accessorizer," you may not like SIGs too much. There just aren't a lot of add-ons available (not that you really need any of them anyway, in my opinion). Also, a buddy who is the armorer for his SIG-equipped PD says almost all the reliability issues they have ever had were related to officers putting non-SIG aftermarket stuff on their guns. According to him, they run great if you keep them stock and if you do stuff the way it says in the factory book. I did once have problems with a SIG and it was due to a non-factory spring.
 
P229 is a great pistol, and I prefer .357Sig over .40 SW.

Biggest problem is muzzle blast and very loud "Boom" distinctive with .357Sig.

Some have complained that .357Sig isn't any better than a hotly loaded 9mm.
 
Can't go wrong with a Sig.
I would hold on to that AR - you might not be able to get one anymore once the Dems get in and after all the B.S. going on today with the Virgina Tech tragedy. :fire:

As far as the .357sig round, I have a P239 (smaller than the P229) in .40S&W with a .357sig barrel. Personaly, I like shooting .40 much better then .357sig. It's cheaper to shoot and easier to find. There are lots of debates as to which one is better - it all depends on who you ask.
 
I have a 229 in 357 just like the one pictured minus the rail. I also have one in 9mm. The .357 is the one I carry when I don't have my Kahr CW9 on and am not too worried about concealment. I carries great and shoots really well for me. I'm as accurate with it as I am with the 9mm. To me the .357 is as loud as the .40 but does not have as much felt recoil, though I'm comparing it to a Beretta 96, not a Sig. One interesting point of trivia about the .357 is that I have a customer who is a Federal AirMarshal. He said they issue HK's I believe, or Sigs one, in .357. He said the ballistics show that they will not pass through the bad guy, hence preventing a big hole in the fuseladge of an airplane. That tells me that it is a safe yet effective self defence round that should not pass thru and injure others, not that others will.
 
Any defensive handgun cartridge can be loaded so that it will not pass through a human. It all depends on bullet construction being combined with impact velocity. We can do this with 45 acp, 40 S&W, 38 SPL, 357 SIG and so on.
 
Excellent. What barrels can be swapped in the 226 and which default caliber should I buy to give me the most flexibility? I assume I will need new magazines for each new barrel right?
 
With the P229 at least .357 Sig / 40 S&W is a barrel change, same magazines.

Since you can start with either and switch I'd pick the one that interests you the most and start there.

If you are a reloader (or will be) 40 S&W is a little easier to reload because it is a straight wall case.
 
I think the only one you need to watch is the P239 that was originally in 357SIG and came with 357SIG specific mags. I dont know if they are still making them that way or not, but mine came with them and they will not work with a .40 as there is a step in the mag at the case neck on the 357's. The .40 mags will work with the 357's.
 
I have a Sig P229 with both the .40 S&W and the .357 Sig barrels. I would be concerned with overpenatration using the .357 Sig rounds, since they are pretty much just souped up 9mm's on steroids. It is and extremly accurate and fun round to shoot. But for SD purposes I think I would use the 40 cal barrel, instead. The nice thing is you don't have to swap anything but the barrel for both rounds. The same spring and mags are used.
 
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What barrels can be swapped in the 226 and which default caliber should I buy to give me the most flexibility?
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357 SIG can be converted to 40SW and vice versa with a barrel swap using factory barrels.

357 SIG and 40SW can be converted to 9mm using a Bar-Sto aftermarket barrel.

9mm cannot be converted to either 357 SIG or 40SW.

The magazines for 357 SIG and 40SW are the same, except for (mysteriously) on the 239 where the mags are different as noted above.
 
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