Sig P250SC or Glock 27 - Seeking opinions...

[Big Mike]

I'm ready to scale down my carry piece (S&W 4043)and, in general, I've distilled it down to these two, I'm not looking for a pocket pistol, just something smaller in weight and dimensions, and prefer a DAO trigger.

I've owned three Glocks in the past, including a G26, but never got used to the trigger. I loved with light weight but the trigger never grew on me, also, it never failed on me in over 1,000 rounds I shot through it. Plus the ability to use a variety of sub compact/compact/full size mags was helpful.

P250, I'm aware of the history of the original, or first version released and it didn't impress me. I've had the opportunity to dry fire the "updated" subcompact .40 in a LGS, and liked the trigger, especially with the XGrip 13 compact mag-nice. Yes, it was slightly longer than my current DAO pistol, but I didn't mind it at all. I've shot DAO pistols almost exclusively for the last 8 years and prefer it. I'm familiar with, but not interested in the modularity of the P250.

I'm aware that the Glock will weigh less, has a successful track record, outstanding factory and aftermarket support for everything, and that the P250 will weigh more and has less aftermarket support (do they have any? ).

My method of carry is Appendix, IWB. I really appreciate hammer when reholstering my 4043 (slowly). Anyway, your thoughts are appreciated! Thanks, Mike

 

[mdThanatos]

What was it about the trigger that you didn't like on the Glock, cause they are all pretty much the same. You can lighten it or make it heavier but if you didn't like the stock trigger then the 27 won't be any different, which leaves you with the 250.

 

[PabloJ]

I'm ready to scale down my carry piece (S&W 4043)and, in general, I've distilled it down to these two, I'm not looking for a pocket pistol, just something smaller in weight and dimensions, and prefer a DAO trigger.

I've owned three Glocks in the past, including a G26, but never got used to the trigger. I loved with light weight but the trigger never grew on me, also, it never failed on me in over 1,000 rounds I shot through it. Plus the ability to use a variety of sub compact/compact/full size mags was helpful.

P250, I'm aware of the history of the original, or first version released and it didn't impress me. I've had the opportunity to dry fire the "updated" subcompact .40 in a LGS, and liked the trigger, especially with the XGrip 13 compact mag-nice. Yes, it was slightly longer than my current DAO pistol, but I didn't mind it at all. I've shot DAO pistols almost exclusively for the last 8 years and prefer it. I'm familiar with, but not interested in the modularity of the P250.

I'm aware that the Glock will weigh less, has a successful track record, outstanding factory and aftermarket support for everything, and that the P250 will weigh more and has less aftermarket support (do they have any? ).

My method of carry is Appendix, IWB. I really appreciate hammer when reholstering my 4043 (slowly). Anyway, your thoughts are appreciated! Thanks, Mike

I would stick with SIG because it is very similar to S&W and you do not like Glock two-stage trigger pull.

 

[Tomac]

I've tried Glocks but couldn't warm up to them.

Wife and I now have 3 P250's, her P250sc in .380 and my P250's in 9mm (one P250c and one P250sc w/a compact grip module).

We both really appreciate the smooth/light DAO-style trigger as it eliminates the need for manipulating a manual safety under stress and makes each shot deliberate.

Don't have a lot of rds downrange w/them yet but so far they've been 100% w/the sole exception of her .380sc doesn't fully chamber the first rd of Buffalo Bore +P 100gr hardcast when chambering from slidelock, requiring a slight push on the back of the slide (but functions perfectly after it's chambered).

While I tried the X-grip adapter so I could use my P250c 15rd mags in my P250sc (and it worked well except for being slightly loose which I fixed w/a few strips of Gorilla Tape on the inside of the adapter), I just picked up a spare compact grip module and had my 'smith bob the front by about 1/2" so my sc can use the 15rd mags w/o the adapters.

There are holsters and such available for the P250, just not as plentiful. SIG has been very helpful to date installing night sights on my P250c (didn't come w/them like they did on my sc) but many popular P250 parts/accessories are backordered through SIG (sometimes available elsewhere like Ebay or GunBroker).
Tomac

P250c 9mm upper right, P250sc .380 upper left:


P250sc 9mm on bobbed P250c grip module:

 

[VBVAGUY]

FYI *most* universal type holsters that fit the M&P Compact / XDM 3.8 Compact will also work and fit the Sig P250SC. I hope this helps. God Bless

 

[wnycollector]

Another vote for the P250. I have a full size 45 P250 and it has been flawless in ~750 rounds. It has eaten steel case WPA, 200 gr SWC reloads, AL cased Blazer and +p HST 230 gr JHP...nothing stops this pistol.

I'm on the lookout for a good deal on a Subcompact .40 x-change to make a fine full sized pistol into a great CCW.

 

[MikeJackmin]

I like my 40sc as well.

The only point I could add is that Sig likes to calibrate their sights so the that center of the dot on the front sight indicates the point of impact, rather the the top of the sight. This can be fixed with a taller rear sight if you don't like it. I found I got used to it and did not bother making the change.

 

[orphanedcowboy]

Can I ask, why not something like a M&P Shield or the XDs series?

 

[Big Mike]

All, thanks for the replies.

mdT, I never could get used to the trigger on mine. All my Glocks were 2nd gen, a 19, 21 and 26. I never did get where the reset in the trigger was for subsequent shots. When I transitioned to the DA/SA, Beretta, Tanfoglio ans ultimately a 6906, I slowly phased out my striker fired Glocks. They were generally reliable and the lightest handguns I've ever carried. Having said that, the last time i shot a Glock was 1998, and I know there's been several enhancements between Gen 3 and now 4.

orphanedcowboy, I haven't held the Shield or M&P40c, but I have read good things about both. I would say its on my list but I would like to handle one. I looked at the XDS just today actually, online. I know it's new... I looks like a neat pistol and I would like to handle one too, but the couple shops I've been to don't have either the Shield, M&P40c or the XDS. Will continue to look...

Thanks....

 

[InkEd]

Try an XD or Kahr. If you already own the two in the title, I would keep the Glock.

 

[mdThanatos]

I have a little bit of experience with the 2nd gen 17, a shop I used to frequent would get one in every so often and I would get to look at it and dry fire it, I didn't like the trigger pull on it. The gen 3 wasn't bad and I have shot quite a few rounds through gen 3 Glocks: 17, 19, 22, 23, 26. The triggers on those aren't terribly bad in my opinion. You can definitely tell where the reset is. The gen 4 Glocks should be the same as in telling where the reset is and trigger pull weight should still be roughly the same, haven't taken a look at them yet.

If you can try and dry fire a 27, either gen 3 or gen 4, although it would be best if you could actually shoot both but I know that isn't always an option.

Just based on some late night thinking and having just got off work (so forgive my rambling):

In stock configuration the Sig will hold one more round
The Sig will weigh more and should recoil a little bit less (based on weight)
The Glock should have a lower bore axis (Should cause I haven't seen how high the Sig sits in the hand) and that can reduce muzzle rise
The Glock magazines will more than likely be cheaper than the Sigs, but right now availability may be an issue (A quick search showed a ten dollar difference between the two but the Glock being out of stock)
Trigger pull weights from what I am reading should be roughly the same between the two
The Sig offers a modular design which means you can switch from the subcompact to a full size or compact design without having to buy multiple guns (just use the fire control unit as that is the part that is considered the gun, and Sig used to have a 2SUM package, don't know if they still do or not)


To sum up my late night just got off work rambling, the Sig seems very interesting to me but may be a slight gamble where as the Glock, as you already know, has a longer track record. If it were me in this position I might just ask my lucky coin to decide for me, that's how close it is between the two.

 

[dprice3844444]

i had my gen2 26 and my 2 gen 3 19's converted to the round trigger like the 17 has by glock . hated the serrated trigger.tore up my finger.glock is lighter,and cheaper.if you have a dd214,cop,or fire cert, find a glock police supplier,you might qualify for police prices.also remember,if you have to shoot something,it's cheaper to lose the glock,than those other expensive guns.

 

[orphanedcowboy]

Big Mike, I never held one until mine arrived. It has to be the very best pistol i have ever wrapped my hands around.

The very first 7 rds thru my Shield 40 at 7yds:



It shot so well and was so much fun, I burned thru 400 rounds in short order. The new guns have a fantastic trigger with a very short take-up and reset. I highly recommend you find one to at least hold or rent for a range session. I currently carry a M&P 40c, that will become a bedside gun once the Shield has proven itself a reliable.

Cope's Distributing has the Shield shipped for $442, $429 + flat $10 shipping and $3 insurance, but that would mean going in blind. I wish you were local to me, I'd meet you and let you shoot the 40c and then the Shield.

 

[WinThePennant]

I like my Glocks. And, I like my Sig P250.

I tell ya' what, that P250 is simply crazy accurate. Perhaps the most accurate pistol I've ever owned. People who say otherwise just haven't figured out the trigger.

 

[AdamSean]

Easy resolution. Do you want DAO or striker fired. Both excellent guns and I have owned and fired both. I prefer striker fired pistols, but the DAO has a second strike capability.


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