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OK. the first auction, i laughed. The second auction, i gasped.
Joke's over....Saxon, you're a class act and should be legally pursuing the $50 now....if not more?
As the 1st auction drew its last breaths, you contacted GB and they advised you to relist same item with a new auction. You complied, re-listing the single round. They then not only halted the auction, they also suspended your privileges and account with them???
Oh yeah.. I was looking forward to the ending of this wonderful drama/comedy that has been taking place over the last few days.... I am totally unfulfilled at that BS... Give you 5 bucks for that bullet... I will even pay shipping... HEHE..
Please don't complain to GB. I'm sure somebody got tired of dealing with it. It's a business to the owners and not just for amusement. I already sent a message apologizing. I really thought the relisting was OK. I guess not.
I did mention that all the bids were legitimate, but not sure if that mattered. Anyway, I hope the suspension isn't permanent.
All the critics can now have the last laugh.
PS: I went back and searched my messages and I did find one advising me that no more single round auctions would be permitted. I totally missed the message so it was my fault. I can understand their position. The threat was suspension "for an extended period of time" so I guess eventually I'll be let back in. When I am, I will offer a full box of 45 ACP ammo with proceeds going to Fallen Warriors.
Just to be clear... I had no problem with either auction. I was just stating my opinion of what I would do. A lot of people took that to mean things I didn't say or mean (I never questioned the legal force of contracts or the validity of selling anything for whatever you can get). I did have a problem with the idea that it was only the bidder's fault and the idea that because "they made it real" there was a problem. "When you choose an action you choose the consequences of that action", even when the consequences are not under your control. Your right to choose that action was and is unquestioned...just don't act surprised when things get out of hand.
And I repeat, I violated no posted rules with the first auction. They changed the rules and I missed it on the second one. My fault for not locating the message telling me no more single round auctions (which actually occur quite frequently with collector ammo but I guess no more).
But I still maintain that whether the first auction was a god idea or not, it caused zero problems until the phony bidders showed up.
By the way, my punishment was more severe. All the phony bidders got was a warning. I was the one suspended. I also received a threatening email from one of the bidders. Who's the adult, here?
Yeah, I think we've all done things that were within the rules but landed us in hurtsville. I hope we never devolve to a system where the rules are so strict that simply following them will keep us safe from all consequences.
I'm sorry things went the way they did; but if you can turn a profit for a Charity things will not be in vain, or just for our amusement. I would talk to the guys at GB and see if the bidders can be held accountable - enough to make donations to worthy charities for 20 or 50 bucks a piece.
Started at a penny with no reserve. It was as legitimate as I knew how to make it. They just decided no more single round auctions and I missed the advisory. My fault. Not ducking responsibility. I think when they close an auction it automatically says reserve not met even if there wasn't one in place.
Like I said, when I am back in I will offer the whole box (including the infamous one) with proceeds going to Fallen Warriors.
I think you should consider yourself lucky that you got away with just being banned, and not accused of fraud or theft through misrepresentation. Unless that round really does make Playboy bunnies come running, I think you went overboard with that. Anyway, at least its all over now.
How big of a deal is being banned anyway? Can't you just sign up again with a different user name?
While I'll not say that "I told you so" (see page 4, post 93), I am not surprised that this ended with account suspensions since the owners of GB have every right to expect that no one engage in this sort of behavior at their expense*.
I found the entire thing to be an entertaining and light-hearted diversion at the very most and anyone who really thinks that Saxon Pig engaged in any form of fraud or misrepresentation needs to check their sense of reality for bugs.
Other than a possible lapse in judgement where the policies and sensitivities of GB and its owners are concerned, Saxon Pig has done nothing criminal and is now paying the price through his "suspension". Give him a break and remember how boring the last 24 hours could have been had he not been such a innovative and entertaining thinker.
* It is their service resource and they are the only ones that might have conceivably had anything to lose despite the fact that Saxon Pig meant no harm.
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