Size: Sig P238 vs. J Frame S&W (pics)

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Well either this is useful to someone or it's just fun posting pics, or both.

Now and then folks ask for a side by side comparison of some gun or the other so here is a J frame M60-7 S&W Lady Smith in 38 Spl. along side the Sig P238 in .380 acp.

The S&W M60 was their first revolver chambered in stainless steel and appeared in about 1965. The Lady Smith version showed up 1989 or so. The grips are alleged to be anatomically better shaped for a woman. Could be but they fit me fairly well.

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The Sig P238 was introduced in 2009 or so. It's a variation of the Colt Mustang, but better done, in my opinion. Alloy frame with a steel slide.

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The barrel of the M60 is 1 7/8" long that of the Sig just under 2 3/4". Given the difference in the way barrels are measured between wheelsguns and semis they are roughly equivalent.

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The M60 is 1.308" across the cylinder while the P238 measures .915 across the grips and .820 across the slide.

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The Sig comes with one extended body magazine that holds 7 rounds. A flat bottom mag which holds six is also available. One in the chamber easily exceeds the capacity of the J frame.

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Loaded with the 7+1 mag and a 6 rounder on hand the P238 weighs 1pd 5.3oz.

The M60 with 5 in the cylinder, the Tyler T grips and 10 extra available weighs 1pd 11.4 oz as you see it.

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An alloy framed J frame weighs a bit less of course. If we evened out the round count the weight could get a bit closer. Both weight and size are considerations as is round count and speed of reload. More important is how they shoot in a persons hand, ease of handling, etc.

Take your pic.

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One thing pictures can't show is felt recoil - which is why my wife has a P238 and I have a .357 LCR.
 
The Sig P238 was introduced in 2009 or so. It's a variation of the Colt Mustang, but better done, in my opinion. Alloy frame with a steel slide.
Nice photos and comparison.

My Mustang is trimmer than my P238 and has been more reliable but my P238 is an early production model. A flat recoil spring and neoprene grips have improved the operation of the P238.

In my opinion, Sig's attempt to make the P238 a bit different from the Mustang, they broke the design.

The current production Mustang has a choice of alloy and polymer frames.

Between the J frame, a 642 in my case, and the P238, I prefer to carry the P238 because of the size. But, there are times the wheel gun makes sense.
 
Nice comparison !
I'd go for my beloved & trusted S&W 640.
But that's just because I'm a sucker for snub nosed revolvers.
 
tipoc

Nicely done comparison. I have similar models of both of your guns (a S&W Model 649 and a Model 638 along with a SIG P238), and I find that all three of them work very well in my CCW rotation. Probably the biggest advantage I would say about the SIG versus the S&Ws (besides the fact that the SIG has night sights), is that reloading times are much quicker for me using a semi-auto over a revolver.
 
I prefer the j frame, well hammerless J frames. I find a snub j frame to be much easier to shoot accurately then a micro semi autos.I feel like I can get a very high grip that I dont think is possible with a semi auto. the high grip almost eliminates muzzle flip.

the only problem it is I cant practice much with it, after 30 rounds of 357 out of an 11oz gun I dont wanna pick it up anymore. heck the webbing between my thumb and index finger will be bruised for afew days :D
 

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