Small 380 with Hammer, External Safety and works DA/SA?
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Walther PPK, and corresponding PPK inspired guns like the Bersa Thunder.
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https://www.beretta.com/en-us/80-series/
These just made a comeback. I was handling one at a LGS and if I was in the market for a gun that size I would definitely be getting this one. Still might just because you never know how many DASA pistols will be available in a few years.
These just made a comeback. I was handling one at a LGS and if I was in the market for a gun that size I would definitely be getting this one. Still might just because you never know how many DASA pistols will be available in a few years.
While the Springfield 911, Colt Mustang, Govt. 380 and Pony, Kimber Micro 9mm/380, Sig P238 and P938 are all good pistols which trace their original designs to the Star Model D, they are all single action only.
The OP asked about 380 pistols that are SA/DA. The Walther PP and its derivatives and clones along with the mentioned Beretta all meet the requirements of what the OP is looking for.
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S&W M&P Bodyguard 380 but DAO.
I corrected the statement, after I realized my mistake.
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SIG P230/232 come pretty close. No actual safety, but they do have a decocker.
Thanks, that seems like what I am looking for.
Those are beautiful!! Maybe bigger than I'm looking for though.
What model is that?
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It is the model 911. It is offered in .380 and 9mm.
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How small? Bersa Thunder.
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FEG SMC 380 if you can find one. I have two of these in 9x18 Makarov that are very reliable and reasonably accurate.
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Yes. Beretta 85F. It's a fun gun to shoot. I really should shoot it more!
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The photograph shows single stack magazines. Are you sure it's not a model 85F?
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Beat me to it. My SMC-380 is a great little pistol. I liked it so much I kept it and sold off my Manhurin Walther PPK/s.
Stay safe.
If I knew you could buy a full blown Walther PPK only with a higher standard of finish for $180 new back in the early 2000's I would have bought 20. Mine is an APK in .380 acp, maybe a waste since I load 9mak anyway for a PA-63. FEG made some incredible pistols.
I must add mine are very reliable and extremely accurate.
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The Beretta 85 would work. It's a double-stack. I misremember the model number of the double-stack version.
The Walther PP or PPK and clones thereof are the other obvious answer. The Bersas are widely available. The FEG copies are good (I have two).
The Makarovs are also basically PP/PPK "clones". Most of them are in 9x18, but some of the Russian commercial ones were in 380. I have one and it's been excellent.
The Walther PP or PPK and clones thereof are the other obvious answer. The Bersas are widely available. The FEG copies are good (I have two).
The Makarovs are also basically PP/PPK "clones". Most of them are in 9x18, but some of the Russian commercial ones were in 380. I have one and it's been excellent.
The Beretta 85 would work. It's a double-stack. I misremember the model number of the double-stack version.
The Walther PP or PPK and clones thereof are the other obvious answer. The Bersas are widely available. The FEG copies are good (I have two).
The Makarovs are also basically PP/PPK "clones". Most of them are in 9x18, but some of the Russian commercial ones were in 380. I have one and it's been excellent.
Yes the Beretta model 85 would be a bit trimmer than the Model 84 as it is a single stack magazine vs a double stack. But, it is still a fairly large pistol when compared to the 380 ACP 1911 derivatives.
The Beretta Model 84 is fairly soft shooting even though it is a straight blow back design. The Walther PPK in 380 ACP is a smaller pistol, but has a snappy recoil due to its blow back design system. Not un-managabe but...
The Colt Mustang and its clones from other manufacturers are pleasant to shoot and quite accurate. The locked breech recoil system seems to tame the recoil. I think Colt made a DA/SA version in the 1990's called the Pony, but my memory may be fading here.
Other manufacturers had DA/SA pistols based on the PPK design but I think they are out of production these days.
While the 32 ACP is not considered useful these days, the Walther PP series of guns are quite shoot-able in this cartridge. Remember, a hit with a lesser cartridges trumps a miss with anything else.
A Walther PPK in 32 ACP provides the level of protection desired as long as the shooter uses proper shot placement.
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Oops. Yeah, @cfullgraf is correct. The Model 84 is the double-stack Beretta. The Model 85 is the single-stack.
Pictures or it didn't happen:
Pictures or it didn't happen:
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SIG P230/232 come pretty close. No actual safety, but they do have a decocker.
I love the looks of the 230 and even the 232.
I sure wish I could go back in time and turn all these metal framed blowback .380s into locked breech guns.
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There is also the Beretta 1934 model and the Beretta 70 series that came in .380 as well as 22lr and 7.65.
My 1935 model which was the 7.65 version:
and my 71 which is also in 7.65:
The 380 versions were the same size as the other calibers.
My 1935 model which was the 7.65 version:
and my 71 which is also in 7.65:
The 380 versions were the same size as the other calibers.
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