Sniper(ish) rifle in .223 Rem

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I'd like something like this as well.. But am looking at the .204 round. Blazing fast (4000FPS) and the ammo seems to be cheap as well. Not sure if it's more or less expensive than .223 though (would think it would be less).

I just got a 17 HMR (2700-2800FPS and it's a rimfire!!!) and love it. It's my first long rifle with a scope and it's really opened my eyes to the joys of long range shooting. So I'll continue to shoot it more as I research other calibers for my next step up.
 
I've been quite pleased with my Ruger 77 Mk II light sporter in .223. It was half-moa from the git-go; easier, though, after I installed a Timney trigger. It works well to some 300 yards on prairie dogs. It hasn't been picky about loads, grouping the same with almost any 50-55 grain bullet, and even some round-nosed 70grain bullets I inherited from my uncle. :)
 
Okay I only read the first 5 post and then sat back and thought for a second.

Not to contradict anyone, but I have seen men shoot at the 1000yard/meter line with a modified M16 heavey barrel in .225/5.56cal when I was in 29palms Marine Corps base. I have no doubt the weapon is capable of that, but would have to agree it would be more of a convenience to use .308 at such a range.

I know that you said bolt action, but I am suggesting the ar-15 for my obvious, military usage, reasons. Also mind you if it's sniperish that you are looking for then it should definitely be a hevey barrel weapon with at least a 6X42 scope minimum (in my opinion)

I also forgot to mention that in the Corps we are not trained to shot at the 2,3, and 500 yard line with anything else but the Iron Sites and still we make killing shots to the chest and the head.

So please take it for what it's worth, but my opinion lies true with the AR-15 or anything of that varient, though granted it's not a bolt action, it's still a .223 by default.

BTW nice pic of a SIG 552 if I stand correct.
 
instead of sniper (which is an evil dirty word is you listen to the news or the antigunners):rolleyes:

use precision rifle. because its just soo much better!!!

you want .223 get that new remington 700sps varmit. it goes for about 4-500 bucks, its got a nice heavy bbl and a "sniperish" black stock:evil:

nothings funner than vaporizing water filled milk jugs at 300 meters with an AR anyway...

also, good note on the ar-15 USMCDK, its truly one hell of a rifle, if you know who to handle it. the air force dosent shoot out that far, only about 100 yards if i remember correctly, so basic training was a cake walk for me!!!

happy shooting
 
I do hear good things about the new Ruger, but at $7-800 it's not really a "starter" rifle, you do need to tweek it a bit to get the best accuracy out of it. I'd say stick with a bolt gun, the new Remmy sps will be ok out to 300, you don't need to shoot anything heavier than a 62 gr. or so for that range (it's a slower twist shorter barrel). Beyond that I'd porbably go with the Savage 12FV, faster twist and longer barrel for the heavier bullets, should be $500-550. I shoot a 12FV in .243 and it's a great gun out to 600, I don't have a nearby range longer than that. Other decent guns that I don't really shoot myself would be a heavy barrel CZ, Tikka, etc.
 
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I like the .223 because of the low cost of ammo and components to reload; also there is very little recoil. I already posted this picture in the rifle section and in the reloading section one more won’t hurt.:D One thing I have noticed with my Remington 700 LTR (1 in 9" twist) is that when I clean the barrel I need to shoot 6-8 rounds in it before she will start producing these type groups again. The best 3 shot group I've got out of this rifle was with a 65 grain Sierra BTSP with 26.5 grains of BL-C(2).

J.B.
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I can't imagin a fancy stock and barrel weight would turn ANY Mini-14 into a target rifle. Every one I have ever seen is more akin to patterns than groups.

As far what you want to call it, from Wikpedia:

In military and law enforcement use, the term sniper rifle is frequently applied to rifles used to ensure accurate placement of shots at greater ranges than other small arms. A typical sniper rifle is built for optimal levels of accuracy, fitted with a telescopic sight and chambered for a military centrefire cartridge. The term is often used in the media to describe any type of accurized firearm fitted with a telescopic sight that is employed against human targets.

Bold script mine. What we call it and what the media call it should never get confused. If you want to call it a Sniper Rifle because you intend to place shots at extremely long range on paper, varmints, or whatever you choose then go right ahead. The media will portray any gun they have a story about in any manner they wish, the facts be damned so why should we play into their deceitfulness?

I have a Savage action mounted in a Plaster Sniper Stock. Do you think if that gun was in the news that they would hesitate for one second to call it a Sniper Rifle despite the fact that it is used solely for hunting? No. Call it what you will. The TRUTH is what matters and to cowtow to an obviously biased and truth-challenged media is to play into their game.
 
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