KiltedClaymore
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basicly any weapon other than a small swiss army knife can be called heavly armed. heck, give me a good sized solid pewter teapot and I'D call myself heavly armed (at arm-reach distances)!
So how would you define ‘heavily armed’?
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trickyasafox
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I'll bet money at least half that ammo is 22lr
Everyone has only two hands!
What matters is the type of gun.
A person with a machine gun is heavily armed in IHO.
A person with a .50 Barett is heavily armed.
So I don't care how many handguns someone has, because s/he can use only two at the same time!
What matters is the type of gun.
A person with a machine gun is heavily armed in IHO.
A person with a .50 Barett is heavily armed.
So I don't care how many handguns someone has, because s/he can use only two at the same time!
Not counting LEOs or security personnel, I would define heavily armed as:
1. An individual that has more than one gun on their person or in their vehicle.
2. An individual that has a weapon on their person or in their vehicle that was originally created for and is currently mainly used for military purposes. Such as the M-16/AR-15 variants, an AK, FN FAL, M-60, Uzi's, chain guns
etc.
3. An individual carrying on their person or in their vehicle enough rounds to end a typical conflict (mugging type of encounter, not a shootout with international bank robbers) with 3 or more people. This one has a bit of wiggle room with me. For a 9mm I would say more than 14 rounds, for a .40S&W I would say more than 12, for a .45 I would say more than 10, for a .357mag I would say more than six, for anything bigger/harder hitting than a .357mag I would say more than 0.
1. An individual that has more than one gun on their person or in their vehicle.
2. An individual that has a weapon on their person or in their vehicle that was originally created for and is currently mainly used for military purposes. Such as the M-16/AR-15 variants, an AK, FN FAL, M-60, Uzi's, chain guns
etc.3. An individual carrying on their person or in their vehicle enough rounds to end a typical conflict (mugging type of encounter, not a shootout with international bank robbers) with 3 or more people. This one has a bit of wiggle room with me. For a 9mm I would say more than 14 rounds, for a .40S&W I would say more than 12, for a .45 I would say more than 10, for a .357mag I would say more than six, for anything bigger/harder hitting than a .357mag I would say more than 0.
I'd say heavily armed would have to include at least 2 rifles of power equal to 5.56 NATO and a sidearm of at least 9mm Parabellum as well as at least 100 rounds for each weapon in loaded magazines (boxes of ammo wouldn't count). For weapons with integral magazines the ammo would have to be readily accessible in a bandolier or a pouch of some kind.
SCKimberFan
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I guess I really am heavily armed when I go to the range with more than 1 gun and a couple of hundred rounds of practice ammo. Who da thunk it?
Billll
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Hard to believe this thread got this far without degenerating into a Jeff Foxworthy festival.
You might be heavily armed if.....
You might be heavily armed if.....
472x1A/B
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You started it Billll !
You might be heavily armed, if you are shooting out traffic signal lights with a AC-130 Gun Ship.( that's heavily armed )
You might be heavily armed, if you are shooting out traffic signal lights with a AC-130 Gun Ship.( that's heavily armed )
Indifferent
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Why does a man living in a Van need more than one revolver and 50 rounds of ammo.
Then to make it even better, timers.
Like has been posted earlier, I feel they caught him just in time.
There is no, oh save the guns, about this, he had a plan to carry out and yes he was a nut job, a hobby is one thing, but guys living out of Vans shouldn't have hobbies, nor should they draw attention to themselves, trust me, my best buddy was homeless for 8 months, I have heard all his stories.
Some of them make me weak just thinking about em'
Then to make it even better, timers.
Like has been posted earlier, I feel they caught him just in time.
There is no, oh save the guns, about this, he had a plan to carry out and yes he was a nut job, a hobby is one thing, but guys living out of Vans shouldn't have hobbies, nor should they draw attention to themselves, trust me, my best buddy was homeless for 8 months, I have heard all his stories.
Some of them make me weak just thinking about em'
proud2deviate
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Only problem I see here is idiot shooting at traffic lights. That other crap doesn't even enter the equation.
ETA: He was accused of shooting at traffic lights. Really really big difference, there.
Let's see:
Scawy lasers, oh noes!
Anti-gubbermint literature. The more the better, IMHO.
Lots of "bullets". I'm envious, actually. Even if most of it was .22
Timers. BFD. I could extract several timers from around the house. Microwave, dryer, alarmist clocks. Want to hear something really scawy? I have *Gasp!* mercury switches. As mentioned by Mel Gibson of Lethal Weapon.
Paint thinner, and "other suspicious items"
ETA: He was accused of shooting at traffic lights. Really really big difference, there.
Let's see:
Scawy lasers, oh noes!
Anti-gubbermint literature. The more the better, IMHO.
Lots of "bullets". I'm envious, actually. Even if most of it was .22
Timers. BFD. I could extract several timers from around the house. Microwave, dryer, alarmist clocks. Want to hear something really scawy? I have *Gasp!* mercury switches. As mentioned by Mel Gibson of Lethal Weapon.
Paint thinner, and "other suspicious items"
msgttbar
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I got stopped by police coming home from an "expedition." I forgot to turn on the lights at night and got pulled over to see if I was drinking.
I'd been out shooting and had several rifles (five or six), handguns (half dozen), spotting scopes, lasers, chronograph, and thousands of rounds of ammo.
Sheriff says, after asking if I had guns in the truck . . . "Well hell! You been out shootin'!"
"Heavily armed" -- with light arms in most books would be a scoped rifle and a handgun, lots of ammo, and spare mags.
Extra points if the "long gun" is an AK, AR or similar military.
Handgun raises flags because it can be concealed.
Either alone don't quite qualify as "heavily armed" but in combination, they tend to alert LEO's -- unless of course "you been out shootin'"
I have "bomb making materials" out in the barn: diesel, fertilizer, plastic pipe, barrels . . . and timers for the electric fences.
I'd been out shooting and had several rifles (five or six), handguns (half dozen), spotting scopes, lasers, chronograph, and thousands of rounds of ammo.
Sheriff says, after asking if I had guns in the truck . . . "Well hell! You been out shootin'!"
"Heavily armed" -- with light arms in most books would be a scoped rifle and a handgun, lots of ammo, and spare mags.
Extra points if the "long gun" is an AK, AR or similar military.
Handgun raises flags because it can be concealed.
Either alone don't quite qualify as "heavily armed" but in combination, they tend to alert LEO's -- unless of course "you been out shootin'"
I have "bomb making materials" out in the barn: diesel, fertilizer, plastic pipe, barrels . . . and timers for the electric fences.
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M4, RPG's and and a high capacity.357 sig.
mort
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I would say that Nicholas Wolfwood would be considered heavily armed.
loop
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I recall once being what I would call heavily armed. Between my vest, belt and satchels I had 700 rounds in magazines to go with the rifle and pistol I was carrying.
I could barely stand up under the weight, but once I got to walking it wasn't really that bad. It was, however, heavily armed.
I could barely stand up under the weight, but once I got to walking it wasn't really that bad. It was, however, heavily armed.
Steve Raacke
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How would I define heavily armed?
That'll do.
1911 guy
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Quote:
1. An individual that has more than one gun on their person or in their vehicle.
2. An individual that has a weapon on their person or in their vehicle that was originally created for and is currently mainly used for military purposes. Such as the M-16/AR-15 variants, an AK, FN FAL, M-60, Uzi's, chain guns etc.
3. An individual carrying on their person or in their vehicle enough rounds to end a typical conflict (mugging type of encounter, not a shootout with international bank robbers) with 3 or more people. This one has a bit of wiggle room with me. For a 9mm I would say more than 14 rounds, for a .40S&W I would say more than 12, for a .45 I would say more than 10, for a .357mag I would say more than six, for anything bigger/harder hitting than a .357mag I would say more than 0.
By that definition, I'm heavily armed dang near every time I leave the house. Methinks you set the bar a bit low.
1. An individual that has more than one gun on their person or in their vehicle.
2. An individual that has a weapon on their person or in their vehicle that was originally created for and is currently mainly used for military purposes. Such as the M-16/AR-15 variants, an AK, FN FAL, M-60, Uzi's, chain guns etc.
3. An individual carrying on their person or in their vehicle enough rounds to end a typical conflict (mugging type of encounter, not a shootout with international bank robbers) with 3 or more people. This one has a bit of wiggle room with me. For a 9mm I would say more than 14 rounds, for a .40S&W I would say more than 12, for a .45 I would say more than 10, for a .357mag I would say more than six, for anything bigger/harder hitting than a .357mag I would say more than 0.
By that definition, I'm heavily armed dang near every time I leave the house. Methinks you set the bar a bit low.
I sort of feel that anything in a rifle caliber that isn't belt fed only counts as "armed" ... it doesn't begin to count as heavy until you've got an M249 and 1000 rounds on you
Even then, that's such a small round, that it barely counts as heavy.
If I lived in a van, I would have several pistols and rifles, too. I don't know if I've got anything in an appropriate traffic light caliber, though
Even then, that's such a small round, that it barely counts as heavy.
If I lived in a van, I would have several pistols and rifles, too. I don't know if I've got anything in an appropriate traffic light caliber, though
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Your average American gun owner could never be considered 'heavily armed', not by any stretch of the imagination.
Not unless there exists a "reasonable" expectation of defeating heavy ceramic body armor protection systems, bulletproof vests, bulletproof vehicle armor, and aircraft armor systems.
Not unless there exists a "reasonable" expectation of defeating heavy ceramic body armor protection systems, bulletproof vests, bulletproof vehicle armor, and aircraft armor systems.
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