So i think i messed up...

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had a gorgeous yugo m48 mauser and when i went to show a friend, he offered me a brand new remington 710 in .30-06, harris bi-pod and forty dollars. looking at the sheer availability of rounds, i took it. the question remains, who got ripped off? I'll probably use it as trade fodder on a 1911 at the next gun show, but id still like to know how that deal went.
 
Well from what I've heard, the 710 was not a very good rifle, at least nothing like the 700. I'v heard this from this board, search for remington 710 in "thread titles" under this forum and you can read up all about it.

On the good side, up here anyways, yugo mausers were going for about 400$ and the 710 is still available for about 400$ as well. Just depends on what you need/want.
 
the thing about the 710 is, if you got one with all steel parts on the bolt assy., then you are fine. Accuracy wise, they are fine as well, just not bench shooters, as after about 5 rounds, the pencil bbl will let you know it is not a varmint bbl. Also, What i did like about them, is their stock; though very plain, it has a very rough textured feel to them, and they are just begging to be cammo painted. A lot of dudes here have done that, and I have seen some nice digital break up jobs, and some real nice single color coyote brown types.
 
I hate to tell you, he got the better deal. Search this forum for 710 and you will not find anything good. Now, it also depends on how often you want to shoot. The 30.06 is a good choice. Plus you can mount a scope and not feel guilty about it.
 
Well, now, I'm as partisan a 710 basher as the next guy. But, price-wise, with the stuff you got, economically you came out ahead and do have a more accurate rifle. As far as horse trading goes, you did just fine.

Yeah, I really don't like the 710, mostly because of the philosphy behind it, but that doesn't cloud reality. You came out on top. The Yugo is a Mauser and might be a better rifle (it is a better rifle), but on the cash balance sheet, you came out ahead.

Ash
 
The Mauser may be all-steel and a piece of milsurp history, but the Yugo is also a weird variant (large ring, short action) that's hard to put optics on without destroying it's historical value, chambered in a useful but uncommon round. The 710 in 30-06 is a yeoman sporting rifle chambered in a common and useful chambering that readily accepts optics.

The principal bashing of the 710 is that it's not heirloom quality. So what? Shoot the snot outta it for the next fifty years. It'll be a sure sight easier to get ammo for it in fifty years than it will for that Yugo Mauser. When the barrel is shot out, toss the bloody thing. You will have gained far more from having had the 710 than from the Yugo.

I'd have taken the deal, too.
 
No, the principal reason to bash the 710 is it is low quality resting on the Remington name at a price higher than better-made guns from other manufacturers.

If Remington sold this baby for $175 or even $200, then I'd have no problem at all with it.

Again, in any case, the deal was a good one.

Ash
 
Well, I don't think you made out very well. On the other hand, you didn't get hurt very badly either.
 
You got taken, badly. That Yugo is a hundred times the gun as the 710. Personally that guy would no longer be my friend just from suggesting it. I wouldn't own a 710. Think of it this way, the 700 is a great rifle. Remington was able to drop the price about $200 for the 710. How much quality did you loose for the$200 that you "saved"?
 
The 710 makes a good pry bar, heard it works well as a door stop too.

All jokes aside, the 710 is a cheap rifle meant for the "one box a year" hunter.
 
Well, now, I'm as partisan a 710 basher as the next guy. But, price-wise, with the stuff you got, economically you came out ahead and do have a more accurate rifle. As far as horse trading goes, you did just fine.

Yep, +1.
 
The Remington 710 is a very nice "deer rifle." If you're a guy who takes your "deer rifle" out of the safe once a year, and goes and shoots Bambi, and puts it back in the safe, it's just fine.

That's what it is intended to be. I see guys at the range "sighting in," and they're still using rounds from the batch of ammo they bought with their rifles 20 years ago...
 
I would say the 710 is an adequate deer rifle, but not very nice. It will do the job, but at higher initial cost and fewer options than other bottom-end rifles. I firmly believe the same hunter should save the cash and buy the better Mossberg 100ATR or the Stevens 200, and put the saved cash towards a better scope.

Ash
 
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